10.5" Ballistics / MV / Performance?

[Pancho Villa]

Well my wife's pissed I sold "her" old AR-15 (a 5.56 beater build I put together to see how cheap I could get a reliable-running AR-15. Answer: about $750 bought be a rig that went almost 2,000 rounds without a cleaning with no problems, so I got bored and sold it for a profit.) I didn't know she liked it so much.

She's preggers right now (due in late June) so I have plenty of time to work with, but I wanted to grab her a pistol AR she can blast away with. Since, assuming wolf comes out with the steel cased stuff, I'll be switching my primary to a 6.5 AR, I'd like to keep ammo commonality with her. She isn't much for long-range shooting; she likes to blast away at close range targets with either pistol or rifle. This would be for her own fun and to also be a "keep around the house" gun for repelling unwanted guests.

So far my thinking is:

SAOD 10.5" upper (~$900 shipped)
Pistol Lower (~$225 shipped and xferred)
Aimpoint Micro T-1 (~$550)
Some Surefire (~$100)
VTAC sling (~$50 shipped)

Anyone have experience with 6.5 SBR/pistols, particularly SAOD's?

What should I expect in terms of finickyness, cleaning, that sort of thing?

What should I expect in terms of terminal performance at short (<100 yards) range, with common ammo (ie wolf soft point)? Premium ammo?

(That last is maybe a bit moot. People don't like getting shot and usually don't stick around to complain after.)

[Variable]

Well, I run an AA rig in 10.5" that is registered as a short barreled rifle. I also use my registered auto sear in it. It runs great and I've had no problems with it. I have no idea about SAOD either good or bad.

A 120 Nosler will drop a 10 point buck at reasonable ranges with it, so I doubt a bad guy would appreciate getting shot with it.LOL I like to refer to mine as "boarder repellant"!

This guy was "DRT" with one shot:


You might want a can for it too--- they are pretty barky!

[Pancho Villa]

Wow, Variable!

Yes, that's the end game plan for this build. Tho it does introduce some interesting calculus into a lethal situation.

Someone's breaking down the door: do I grab my $1600 + $200 SBR stamp + $200 suppressor stamp + $600-1000 suppressor and risk the police "losing" it while the grand jury is pending, or grab my $400 Glock and just bust a replacement out from the safe as soon as the whole kerfuffle is over?

I suppose my only other question would be cleaning. How dirty does it get when you shoot it?

[bwaites]

Wow, Variable!

Yes, that's the end game plan for this build. Tho it does introduce some interesting calculus into a lethal situation.

Someone's breaking down the door: do I grab my $1600 + $200 SBR stamp + $200 suppressor stamp + $600-1000 suppressor and risk the police "losing" it while the grand jury is pending, or grab my $400 Glock and just bust a replacement out from the safe as soon as the whole kerfuffle is over?

I suppose my only other question would be cleaning. How dirty does it get when you shoot it?

I bust out whatever is closest, since I don't tend to carry an AR around inside the house all that much! I then deal with whatever the aftermath may be. IF they decide they have to have my firearm, then it goes out the door ONLY after they have signed a receipt, including the value, of EVERY piece that goes with it. They get a copy for their evidence locker, and I get a copy for MY evidence locker!

Then my attorney gets a copy for HIS evidence file.

Things don't tend to get lost that way!

[Pancho Villa]

I bust out whatever is closest, since I don't tend to carry an AR around inside the house all that much! I then deal with whatever the aftermath may be. IF they decide they have to have my firearm, then it goes out the door ONLY after they have signed a receipt, including the value, of EVERY piece that goes with it. They get a copy for their evidence locker, and I get a copy for MY evidence locker!

Then my attorney gets a copy for HIS evidence file.

Things don't tend to get lost that way!

That's what 2-point slings are for.

Its 2012, and you're not carrying around an AR-15 in your jammies at night? Please.

(kidding)

[LRRPF52]

I would prefer to shoot suppressed in the house for the mere fact that I already have enough hearing loss. You can't put a price on that.

[bwaites]

that's what 2-point slings are for.

Its 2012, and you're not carrying around an ar-15 in your jammies at night? Please.

(kidding)

rotflmao!!

[Variable]

Wow, Variable!

Yes, that's the end game plan for this build. Tho it does introduce some interesting calculus into a lethal situation.

Someone's breaking down the door: do I grab my $1600 + $200 SBR stamp + $200 suppressor stamp + $600-1000 suppressor and risk the police "losing" it while the grand jury is pending, or grab my $400 Glock and just bust a replacement out from the safe as soon as the whole kerfuffle is over?

I suppose my only other question would be cleaning. How dirty does it get when you shoot it?

Mine stays around when I'm around, but it gets locked up in the gun room when I'm on work cycles. I can't leave it around if I'm not there because it'd cause trouble for the wife. I usually just carry a glock 23 when I'm out (not counting the rolling truck rig), and I leave the 23 for the wife when I'm gone since I carry a Glock 22 on duty.

Dirty-- Oh yeah! It gets really dirty, but that's just the nature of the beast with suppressed weapons.

As far as money tied up in the evidence locker if something happens? HeHe, well I have plenty of others, and while I am on a budget and cognizant of most costs these days there is no second place in home defense. Losing would cost even more than lawyers in the long run as far as I'm concerned. Plus it also just happens to help justify some cool toys...

[Variable]

rotflmao!!

Yeah, you slacker!LOL!!!

I'm still wanting Colt to release some SCW components so I can rig up some kind of holster for one.

[leopard6.5]

Variable: That was good!

But honey how can we put a price on our safety and of course I'm only spending that much to keep you and the kids safe.
Of course I would never spend that much if I wasn't thinking of you.

Keeps me from having to sell stuff.

Lee

[LRRPF52]

My wife and baby's safety and hearing are no joke. This is why suppressors should have no special regulation by the ATF.

[leopard6.5]

Amen LRRPF52! What he said.

Lee

[Variable]

Amen X2!

[LRRPF52]

"Dear ATF. Can I please have permission to make sure my hearing isn't destroyed or that my wife doesn't miscarry in the event that I am forced to defend the lives of my family and self with a firearm in our home or vehicle?

Sincerely,
Joe Citizen Blow"

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait x 3-8 months.....

OK. You now have permission to purchase a firearms suppressor, which we will keep records on in a government database, for criminals (like us) to access when we want to come rob you of your property, especially your firearms. We figure that if you are enough of an enthusiast to purchase a suppressor, you have at least 8-30 firearms in your home.

Thank you, SUCKUH!!!!

BATFE & soon to be lollipops

[burnsome]

go shorty and dont look back.....my 6.5G shorty is one of my favorite rifles and its a joy to shoot it suppressed....