Finished my first Grendel today

[Ateup]

Took longer and more money than I had planned but turned out very nice. First complete AR build I have done from the ground up.











Spikes Jack billet lower
Giessele G2S trigger
Seekins billet upper
Fail Zero bolt carrier
Precision Firearms bolt
AXTS Raptor charging handle
Odin 20" stainless barrel
Odin Atlas compensator
JP adjustable stainless gas block
Odin O2 Lite M lok handguard
Magpul PRS stock
JP buffer spring
ATI scorpion X2 grip
Bad Ass safety selector (not installed yet)

[Bigs28]

Super nice.

[Ateup]

Super nice.

Thanks. Now to save for a scope!

[65Whelen]

Looking good, looking forward to a range report

[JuanC]

Sweet setup

[Ateup]

Sweet setup

Thank you sir!

[Slappy]

Heck of a rig. Nice going. BANG BANG!!

[Ateup]

Heck of a rig. Nice going. BANG BANG!!

Thanks!

[jim_bob]

Nice looking blaster, what are you thinking glass wise?

[Ateup]

Nice looking blaster, what are you thinking glass wise?

I'm ignorant on optics. Buddy of mine can get wholesale prices so I'm going to give him a set amount and tell him to get me what he thinks is best choice. He's a Vortex fan.

[Bigs28]

What's your set amount and we can all give suggestions. And what is the rifles purpose? Brush hunting, medium range, long range

[NugginFutz]

I'm ignorant on optics. Buddy of mine can get wholesale prices so I'm going to give him a set amount and tell him to get me what he thinks is best choice. He's a Vortex fan.

I strongly recommend that you educate yourself to a high level of comfort on optics before you turn your friend loose with the checkbook. While I am a satisfied owner of three different Vortex scopes, I can tell you that they aren't the end-all, be-all to all things scoped.

Optics come in such a wide variety of configurations and quality, it is entirely possible to end up with a very nice, but unsuitable rifle scope on your nice, new Grendel.

You need to determine what the rifle's primary purpose will be. Hunting? Tactical? Long Range Target? It is universally sound to know what purpose your new ____ will serve prior to shopping among the hundreds, if not thousands, of choices.

Scopes suitable for general hunting, while light, may leave you dissatisfied when attempting to shoot 5 rounds through a cheerio at 500 yards. Weight-wise, a cheerio killing scope will have you switching from shoulder to shoulder like you were back in the army, while you trudge through the woods. (Your rig is going to be problematic in this area enough, as it is.) Scopes designed for tactical work are often usable for hunting but, while they are improving, are seldom suitable for long range target shooting.

Allow me to offer the following read:

[URL="https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2016/7/25/how-to-choose-a-riflescope/"]https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2016/7/25/how-to-choose-a-riflescope/
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While the author does sprinkle a few technical sounding terms in the article (easily cured with a few google searches), he lays out most of the things you need to consider in a very logical way.

Good luck, and enjoy your new rifle. It's quite a looker.

[jim_bob]

Vortex makes good stuff. But heed the advice others are giving and decide what you want to do with the rifle and buy a scope to match. Be sure to save budget for a good mount!

[Ateup]

Will just end up a target gun. Thanks for tips, my buddy is very knowledgeable about the subject. He's helping me teach me about optics and long range shooting.

[Bwild97]

That is a very nice rifle!! Well done!! it has a very unique look, difficult to do for an AR15.

[LRRPF52]

The new line of Vortex Viper PST Gen IIs are about perfect for 6.5 Grendel AR15s.

Vortex built their own robots to apply epoxy to the optical elements when bedding the lenses into the tubes.

NightForce and Vortex are some of the only companies that I know of that do this, which is what it takes to defeat the reciprocating mass effects of bolt carriers slamming into the barrel extension.

[newb]

The new line of Vortex Viper PST Gen IIs are about perfect for 6.5 Grendel AR15s.

Vortex built their own robots to apply epoxy to the optical elements when bedding the lenses into the tubes.

NightForce and Vortex are some of the only companies that I know of that do this, which is what it takes to defeat the reciprocating mass effects of bolt carriers slamming into the barrel extension.

Is this accurate? Or was it once accurate and things changed? Or did they send this robot to their build house or acquire that build house?

• least expensive are Chinese-made Crossfire scopes
• next (significant) step up are Phillipine-made Diamondback riflescopes
• Viper scopes are another step-up in quality (also Phillipine-made)
• at the top of the line-up are the (absolutely world-class) Razor HD riflescopes that are manufactured in Japan.

[LRRPF52]

Is this accurate? Or was it once accurate and things changed? Or did they send this robot to their build house or acquire that build house?

• least expensive are Chinese-made Crossfire scopes
• next (significant) step up are Phillipine-made Diamondback riflescopes
• Viper scopes are another step-up in quality (also Phillipine-made)
• at the top of the line-up are the (absolutely world-class) Razor HD riflescopes that are manufactured in Japan.

Straight from the horse's mouth at SHOT. If I post something, keep in mind that I have personal experience with it that I will indicate it is either anecdotal or large sample, and state the sample sizes as best as I can, or it is from an industry source with the authority and knowledge to make a definitive statement.

If you want to read a great article, Sniper Magazine did several on optics, where Tom Beckstrand traveled to as many of the main optics makers as possible, and asked their engineers how they design, test, and manufacture scopes to deal with the various challenges of high grade optics and rifle recoil abuse. Tom was one of the Company Commanders in my unit at Fort Bragg many years back.

[LRRPF52]

Vortex invested in their own spec CNC robot to epoxy in the optical elements for the AMG, Razor, and Viper PST Gen II scope lines.

That is what it takes to deal with the multiple recoil impulses from a self-loading firearm that have a reciprocating mass.

[newb]

Ateup- Very nice looking build! I look forward to seeing the range report once you choose which glass to use.

Straight from the horse's mouth at SHOT.

I know. I was after more clarification/update on their changes vs the info I read somewhere else. I'll PM you so we don't highjack this thread.