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WTS AA 16" Barrel and bolt
#21
kcgrendel Wrote:Anybody know any leads on economical/budget friendly BCG with a 6.5 bolt?

I'm looking for deals on Carriers with keys too... if you find one cheap let me know, prefer auto.
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#22
[Image: Grendel.jpg]

Here it is thus far... needs a flash hider and a mag that doesn't start bulging after 5 rounds...
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#23
badgerlb Wrote:I'm looking for deals on Carriers with keys too... if you find one cheap let me know, prefer auto.

Bolt should come with your barrel. Then add a real GI Contract M-16 carrier with key. (Under $70 at G&R tactical). Add bolt key, firing pin, and cotter. Grant may even have those on hand.

The other option is to get an LMT ($120-130). then sell the 5.56 bolt.
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#24
Oops, spoke to soon. G&R tactical do not have their GI contract Carrier w key in stock. So I'd buy an LMT or DD complete M-16 BCG, then sell the bolt. Should put you in the $80-90 range for a primo bolt carrier.
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#25
pinzgauer Wrote:Bolt should come with your barrel. Then add a real GI Contract M-16 carrier with key. (Under $70 at G&R tactical). Add bolt key, firing pin, and cotter. Grant may even have those on hand.

The other option is to get an LMT ($120-130). then sell the 5.56 bolt.

Yah I'd keep the bolt...
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#26
Get a BCM carrier for $69 as well.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Bolt-...%20key.htm
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#27
BCM 5.56 bolts are documented to be tested to milspec standards. And presumably their BC's are as well. Certainly a good rep, considered GTG.

But when I could get a for sure milspec BC from the mfg with the GI contract for small parts (Advanced Ordinance Precision Mfg) for much less I did so.

Now, I'd probably have to consider BCM as they have produced more documentation showing milspec testing. And the AO Carriers do not appear to be available.
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#28
I'll probably end up with a spikes full group, just because they have darth vader on the side of em... and then swap out the bolts and put the other in a miad core... im in no rush though... just wish AA would hurry up and ship my mag and FH.
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#29
Not to slam spikes, but they got caught claiming milspec, then could not back it. They have since revised their wording very carefully, and on a few items now offer a full milspec variant.

Lot's of people love spikes, like the imagery. And are happy with their products.

But the hard use guys on various forums consider them questionable, and sometimes you pay a premium for a "sort of milspec". And based on some of the details debated, I sort of understand the concern.

I think people should build what they want, but be informed about what they are getting. Many AR parts labeled milspec just meet dimensional specs. Or made similarly. Others it means meets the Colt TDP, or does to the best of the open information available. So now people are getting more picky about that milspec label. I know I am, because I personally have found two items claiming to be milspec, one was, one was just milspec'ish. At the same price.

On bolts that means MPI & HPT. Similar things on barrels. Specific alloys, not just good ones. Specific treatments to specific hardness.

For 99% of US AR shooters it largely will not matter. For Grendels, It can't matter as there are virtually no HPT/MPI bolts, etc. But even out of spec stuff works.... There are many bad clones that shoot just fine. Bad gas key staking, wrong alloy, commercial extension tube, cheaper lighter bolt carrier, etc.

For me it's a value & reliability thing. If I can get a higher quality product (spec wise) for the same price, or a small uplift, I want to do so.
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#30
pinzgauer Wrote:Not to slam spikes, but they got caught claiming milspec, then could not back it. They have since revised their wording very carefully, and on a few items now offer a full milspec variant.

Lot's of people love spikes, like the imagery. And are happy with their products.

But the hard use guys on various forums consider them questionable, and sometimes you pay a premium for a "sort of milspec". And based on some of the details debated, I sort of understand the concern.

I think people should build what they want, but be informed about what they are getting. Many AR parts labeled milspec just meet dimensional specs. Or made similarly. Others it means meets the Colt TDP, or does to the best of the open information available. So now people are getting more picky about that milspec label. I know I am, because I personally have found two items claiming to be milspec, one was, one was just milspec'ish. At the same price.

On bolts that means MPI & HPT. Similar things on barrels. Specific alloys, not just good ones. Specific treatments to specific hardness.

For 99% of US AR shooters it largely will not matter. For Grendels, It can't matter as there are virtually no HPT/MPI bolts, etc. But even out of spec stuff works.... There are many bad clones that shoot just fine. Bad gas key staking, wrong alloy, commercial extension tube, cheaper lighter bolt carrier, etc.

For me it's a value & reliability thing. If I can get a higher quality product (spec wise) for the same price, or a small uplift, I want to do so.

Spot on here... I hadn't heard about spikes mil-spec issues... but to your point its probably pretty irrelevant to me... i just want something that works and is a good value, and I know if I have a problem with a spikes product they will warranty and replace... I'm sure other companys like BCM will do the same and I'm certainly not ruling them out for anything...
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#31
I've purchased from this guy:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIte...=260868044
These are the real deal GI bolt carriers. Good pricing, real nice guy.
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#32
durn too slow and no spare cash
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#33
If it's still available I'll buy this baby ;-)
Let me know if can but it....
Thanks
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#34
Sorry... i bought it and it's already assembled Smile... Hoping to draw first blood with it this week.
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#35
Thanks anyway... ;-)
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