Evaluation and impression of Legacy 20 inch thin barrel
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I had the opportunity to test a Howa pre-production model with a light weight 20 inch barrel. I am impressed. It appears very well made and just what I have been looking for in a Grendel chambered bolt rifle. It arrived with the Nikko Stirling 3x9 scope and tipped the scales at just under 6 3/4 lbs. with the scope and magazine. The trigger has no creep and broke cleanly and consistently at 2 lb. 10 oz. give or take an oz. or two. The Hogue stock looks well made, free floats the barrel and is pillar bedded. It has a recoil pad, sling swivel studs and a 3 position safety. It comes with one 10 round magazine. The action cycled smoothly and fed, chambered, fired, extracted, and ejected both Lapua and Hornady brass without hesitation. I believe the rifle comes without the scope or with it as a package. My only complaint was that the magazine release was very easy to engage by accident and I dropped the magazine several times by accident. When I receive my rifle I will shorten the release arm by half to two thirds and I think that will fix the problem. Legacy is aware of the problem.

I have had an AR in 6.5 Grendel for several years and love the round. Very accurate and shoots out of a standard AR size rifle. My interest in a bolt gun is to have a very lightweight rifle which shoots the same round. That is the reason I am going with and wanted to test the 20 inch lightweight.

Velocity with Hornady Amax was just under 2500 fps. on a 70 degree day. 2470- 2490 fps.
I shot the rifle out a window, off a shelf over my loading bench with a jury rigged rear support. I believe the rifle will shoot better off a proper bench with solid rear stock support. I got a 5/8 inch group at 100 yards and think the rifle will do better. My range is limited to 300 yards but I could keep rounds on a 6x6 inch head of a steel torso target with a hot barrel at that distance. I shot 4 or 5 rounds at the head, two at the body of the torso and then shot several at a 12 inch circle all without cooling or cleaning the barrel. I was firing as fast as I could while really trying to take the time to hit. I might have missed one of the head shots but hit all the rest. I might mention I had a little gusting wind. I also fired rounds with Lapua brass and Ballistic Tip bullets and they shot about the same as the Hornady rounds. You can load one round at a time after the mag runs dry by tossing in single rounds on top of the mag.

I can't think of anything I would change about the rifle. It is very well thought out and of high quality. I had never shot a Howa action before but I am now a fan. The rifle scope package is a deal. You would have to spend a lot more money on a scope to do lots better. I think with the included scope in the package deal it is a solid shooter out to 500 or 600 yards unless you are really trying for tight groups. I think with the right scope and shooter it is a 1,000 yard rifle. Very good for a lightweight rifle. Due to the wind I did not get to really see if the groups shifts when it got hot but I do know it shoots close enough when hot for it not to make a difference on what I did. I am going to install a Leupold VX-6 2x12 on mine.
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Did you have problems with the magazine being accidentally released? I've read several reviews and they all talk about that.
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Evil Roy Wrote:My only complaint was that the magazine release was very easy to engage by accident and I dropped the magazine several times by accident. When I receive my rifle I will shorten the release arm by half to two thirds and I think that will fix the problem. Legacy is aware of the problem.

Reading comprehension is everything. ; ) Thanks for the report. I sounds like we have a winner on our hands!
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mike garus Wrote:Did you have problems with the magazine being accidentally released? I've read several reviews and they all talk about that.

Yup, end of the first paragraph!

Biodsl beat me by a hair!! LOL!
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Aw man, yall quoted him so now even if he edits his post it lives forever on the interwebsSmile
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#6
Ooops!
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#7
Thanks. Best eval yet.
Does anyone know who Evil Roy is? And how he got his hands on a rifle?
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#8
It's a great review, but I have no idea who he is. Strange that his very first post is a review of a rifle that is in experimental form only. Glad to have him here, though!
”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
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bwaites Wrote:It's a great review, but I have no idea who he is. Strange that his very first post is a review of a rifle that is in experimental form only. Glad to have him here, though!

https://www.evilroy.com/
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#10
There is a SASS registered "Evil Roy" alias belonging to a guy who I think is from AZ. He is one of the top cowboy action shooters in the country if this is the same person.
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#11
one in the same
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#12
It was a great report... Just the Grendel model I was looking for. If it will help me get a Howa Grendel by hunting season, know that I too have a cowboy hat.
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#13
Great report Roy, you hit the points that I wanted to know about. I have one on order, but buying something sight unseen, it nice to get some imput from someone who has handled and shot one. THANKS
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#14
looking forward to shooting one. i have the 223 model with the 22" tube it likes 69 smks. cabelas is giving them away rite now for 399.00
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