New Batch of PPU 6.5 Grendel

[65Carcano]

Has anyone shot any of this yet? I received a few boxes of the 120 HPBT, planning on shooting some this weekend but wondering what to expect. I didn't have a Grendel last time it was available and so far have just shot Hornady SST (very good accuracy), ELD-M (mediocre), and Wolf FMJ (mediocre).

[myrifle]

I have shot a few thousand rounds of it.

Shot just fine for plinking in my ar grendels banging steel and would hold sub moa from my cz grendel.

The brass from the rounds I fired is really good for reloading.

[StoneHendge]

I have shot a few thousand rounds of it.

Shot just fine for plinking in my ar grendels banging steel and would hold sub moa from my cz grendel.

The brass from the rounds I fired is really good for reloading.

You've shot a few thousand rounds of the new batch?

[Wethepeople]

Shot around 400 rds of new RifleLine. Shoots pretty consistent 1.75" with ocassional fliers from an 18" JP and 16"SixSigma/Lilja gb barrel.
Reloading the same bullet (weight sorted), over Tac, full length sized Hdy brass, #450s, seated to mag length get me 1.1" at 2450/2435 respectively from same barrels. No pressure signs at 70 degree temp, 4600 elevation. Fwiw.

[Wethepeople]

Addendum to previous post. By seated to mag length, I still seat cbto, set as long as posibble to ensure fit in ASCs and Duramags.

[myrifle]

You've shot a few thousand rounds of the new batch?

No. The original run of it before the scamdimec hit.

The loads list online for sale now look to be the same loads.

[65Carcano]

Went to the range and it shot decently, pretty close to same POI as factory SST which is nice. The ELD-M was shooting a little better than before too. Hoping I'll see some hogs this weekend. I know PPU has fiddled around with their Grendel recipes over the years with different primer sizes, recalls, etc so that's why I was curious about this new batch.

[VASCAR2]

There have been forum members who used the 120 grain Wolf Gold MPT on deer with good results. When Prvi Partizan started selling their 6.5 Grendel ammo in the US under their name the bullet is referred to as a 120 grain HP BT but I feel sure it is the same bullet. I suspect you’ll get decent results on this bullet in feral hogs.

If you get to use this bullet hunting please post your results.

[cosh]

Is it possible that this newer run of PPU is better than the first. The first was reported to be soft. Or maybe PPU adjusted the pressure, different powder? I am finding brass on the ground at out-door ranges. I picked it up but wondered if it is only good for a few reloads.

[Wethepeople]

I have some of the previous lot(s) imported and have been shooting steel to 400m with the recently imported batch the last week.
I have magneto data for the previous lot it in my lab books, not with me at the moment. I did not think to get velocities on this new batch. Planning to be out again Monday. I'll get some general comparisons between batches.

I've only shot a yote and fox near my chickens at 80-90 yds. Not much left of them. Probably be ok for deer, if you avoid quarting shots that would hit bone other than ribs. Wouldn't be my first bullet choice but would surely do the deed.

[Wethepeople]

First thing at the range yesterday after a couple sighters to warm my barrel, was shoot the reloaded bullet as I previously loaded, going down .001" from the stock .287 bushing on a Redding die. Loaded 5 rds, group tightened up to .700 measured with a steel scale. No unexpected changes in velocity. No pres signs. Enough evidence to load more with the smaller bushing. This was thru the 18" JP.

The last lot of factory Rifleline before the recent drought and the new lot now available shoot similarly from the rifle. Avg fps on the new stuff is near 25fps faster on the magnetospeed. A 10 shot string of the recent stuff had 8 in a .800" vertical and 1.4" horizontal disperstion at 100m with 2 rounds an inch below those. I suspect some of the horz dispersion was from shooting w/bipod off a concrete bench and/or shooter induced from guys shooting tannerite next to us. No difficuly shooting 12w x 30 tall plates at 565 yds. Plate was to beat up to measure dispersion.

[cosh]

Thanks for the update. Guessing the Rifleline is good to go then, that older lot and this newer one. Good to see the accuracy was similar, probably within lot to lot variations.

[65Carcano]

I ordered a few more boxes, should keep me satisfied until more SST shows up. When I went hunting last weekend no hogs showed up but maybe this weekend. I've managed to shoot a hog with every gun I've taken hog hunting except the Grendel, I think they know something.

[Old Bob]

Natchez Shooters Supply has PPU 6.5 Grendel ammo...

https://www.natchezss.com/ppu-rifle-ammu...20-ct.html

[LRRPF52]

Every time I’ve shot the PPU 120gr MPT, it has been surprisingly-accurate from AA and Lilja barrels of various lengths.

They switched to Small Rifle Primers several years ago, so it will be interesting to see how the brass does. LRP brass was soft.

[Wethepeople]

The bullet makes me scratch my head a bit. The bullet length, base to ogive and weight, exhibit considerable variation. Don't have the distribution numbers in front of me from measuring and weighing the first 500 but could post it if useful to others. Didn't measure bearing surface length and wouldn't unless I used an optical comparator. Consistency of diameter for a 20 pc. sample, measured with a Mitutoyo blade mic, exhibited no more .0002" variation. Sure flies good for for all the variation.

In the JP barrel, .022 -.027" bullet jump seems to work great. Gives me a cbto of 1.770-1.775".

The 6SigmaLilja barrel hasn't seen as much work with the bullet yet. It printed some 3 rd cloverleafs at 100m with the box ammo. Will be great if it likes the same load as the JP. Sometime soon, should get some of the Prvi brass proofed, see how it holds up.

[Wethepeople]

Correction. CBTO 1.770-1.775 gives me .032-.037 jump. Seems to be the sweet spot for this bullet/barrel. Going to proof this load w/once fired Hdy brass, keep looking for pressure signs to help make sure 2450ish isnt too hot with Tac.

[oyster]

Not sure how new this "new" batch is but until I ran out about a year ago I was using it for deer and hogs for depredation work. It shot great and did the job if I did my part.
Jay

[LRRPF52]

Not sure how new this "new" batch is but until I ran out about a year ago I was using it for deer and hogs for depredation work. It shot great and did the job if I did my part.
Jay

120gr Multi-Purpose Tactical has a progressive thickness jacket, so while it’s an OTM, it really exhibits controlled expansion as well, because the front is really thin, while the jacket around the base is thicker.

[Serenitynow]

I have a couple hundred of the 120gr BTHP bullets for reloading.
Does anybody know the minimum velocity for expansion for this bullet ?
I have TAC and CFE223 to use along with Lapua, Hornady and Starline brass with CCI450 primers.