Help choosing Buttstock

[scroder]

Take a look at the Magpul UBR--love it on my Grendel for long range shooting.

[funnelcake]

Late but I decided to use the MOE fixed carbine stock (FCS). With the extended PRS buttpad installed it's the same LOP as an A1 stock (which I prefer despite having monkey arms). To me the neat thing is it takes less than 5-minutes to change out for an adjustable carbine stock, swap scope for red dot & lose the bipod. Then ya got a 6-ish pound blaster to have fun, cheap plinking with Wolf fodder for the kids.

[The Profit Joseph Sith]

IDK if this helps but arf.com has a database here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...p=drivesdk

I like the old A2 stocks myself and quit frankly you all are making me miss having one. I just bought six of the MFT minimalist stocks because for $36 each or so on sale. It doesn't get much better. At all. Klem makes a great point but I don't think sliding on a rear bag is the end all, maybe I'm wrong? But my main goal was a long range light weight Hunter stalker as well. I kinda like the cane look. And about 70% of manufacturer's had the MFT on their display guns as well. It's a tight fitting adjustable stock it doesn't rattle.
I was also seriously looking at the hogue as well because it doesn't rattle. People complain it doesn't slide easily but so what, I guess they like cheap rattling toys sounds.

The Zulu stock from Odin also looks bad arse I'd love to try one. But it's more of a target setup. But looks light weight and worth llchecking out.
Good luck!

[grayfox]

I changed out from a CTR collapsible for the MOE rifle (fixed) buttstock for the same reasons of 1 less flex point. Added the thicker buttpad and it's doing great for me. I'm not an expert more of an avg shooter but this works well and the cheek weld seems to be a good fit too. 18" medium heavy barrel. Good overall balance. PRS was too much money for me, plus out in the woods it just looks like more adjustable places that can get knocked out of whack accidentally.

[Double Naught Spy]

Yeah, I have become a Mission First Tactical minimalist stock fan as well and have them on 4 AR15s. To be honest, as much as I like the light weight, I find the shape to be most functional. It does everything I need and even works as a handle.

[jackwagon]

I have the MFT minimalist stock on a 20'' 556 gun. A rear bag is useless to try and use off a bench, but if you put your off hand in the hook and press it in your shoulder it works pretty good. I like them.

[Cockednlocked]

A top-end barrel and scope for bench-rest will be at the mercy of any play in the stock if you go collapsible.

I know it's a feature of AR15's to be able to collapse the stock but frankly, do you really need this? I ask the question because a collapsible brings with it the risk of play in what sounds like a scenario where you want it to be as rigid as possible.

With a 20" barrel you won't find that collapsing the stock a few inches is going to be of much benefit....

FWIW, I have the Magpul ACS on my rifle, and it serves well for precision shooting. The adjustability of it is nice for establishing your optimum length of pull, your most comfortable cheek weld and eye relief. The slight amount of "wiggle" mine has is only in a rotational direction around the buffer tube, maybe 0.05", and once you press the lock, it doesn't move at all. I can maintain 1-1/4 MOA out to 1000 yards with the Grendel, so whatever movement my buttstock might have hasn't seemed to hurt me.

From a personal use standpoint, the collapsibility is useful because I use a single lower for two uppers. The Grendel is used for bench and long-range shooting, and my 300BLK upper is for CQB, and the buttstock is fully collapsed for maneuverability when used for that.

[Rob57]

I put an XLR tactical AR butt stock on my JP and am very happy with design and build quality. Lots of adjustments and rock solid - weigh 22 oz. Really helped to shrink my groups.

https://xlrindustries.com/collections/bu...butt-stock

[diddlyv]

I got the Luth AR for my grendel with the 20 inch Odin DMR barrel. Only took one trip to the range 3 separate 3 round groups all sub minute. Given I have a national match build A2 AR I can always swap out and use that lower with a match trigger and A2 stock if I find the need for a more solid bottom end

[AZBackcountry]

I hope you took Klems advice in the 1st post reply. I used Magpul's MOE Rifle Fixed Stocks on all long range hunting AR's because I want a solid platform for accuracy. This last Saturday I put one of them through the ultimate test. My son and I were tracking an injured bear through the bottom of a very nasty AZ canyon over boulders the size of trucks while wearing packs. I lost my footing on a rock-slide and slid 30 ft using the stock as a trekking pole/rudder trying to protect the rest of the rifle and my arm. We were amazed that the stock survived with just some unique new textures. The buffer tube was undamaged also.

[Kswhitetails]

Very glad you're ok enough to post here! Good testimony on the durability of Magpul's design.

[hdrolling]

I put an XLR tactical AR butt stock on my JP and am very happy with design and build quality. Lots of adjustments and rock solid - weigh 22 oz. Really helped to shrink my groups.

https://xlrindustries.com/collections/bu...butt-stock

Do you have any pics with this mounted?

[DJL2]

To me, minimalist stocks do a great job of looking good and poor job of most everything else. The hook shaped designed featured by most is great for snagging on cover, bags, benches, fences, gear...virtually everything. That same hook design also provides near zero functionality for using a rear bag or rest, or hand placement (if you prefer to shoot that way). Compared to the CTR it saves you...what...3 ounces? 6 ounces versus an ACS-L (or STR)? I've heard "ounces equal pounds and pounds equal pain" as often as anyone, but I'm not giving up a "proper" stock for a few ounces. That's just me though.

The LaRue RAT is worth a mention. It will not be fixed stock solid, but on my mil spec extensions it is close (I'm a Magpul and VLTOR guy, so that's my frame of reference - the RAT is a tighter, more solid fit than either). It also features a nice, smooth, angular bottom without protuberances. This is the reason I prefer the Magpul STR to the ACS, actually. That might be personal preference, but I prefer a smooth bottom surface with a consistent angle for use with bags, etc.

I am built a bit like a Dackel (Dachshund) compared to some here. If I get an off the rack shirt with the arms sized properly, the torso tends to run short. If the torso is the right size, the sleeves are probably too long. I run my adjustable stocks about halfway from nearly any shooting position. I learned "nose to charging handle" and that is how I habitually shoot. A well designed fixed stock is a wonderful thing...I wouldn't hesitate to switch if I found one that fit me well.

[hdrolling]

To me, minimalist stocks do a great job of looking good and poor job of most everything else. The hook shaped designed featured by most is great for snagging on cover, bags, benches, fences, gear...virtually everything.

That's strange because everyone I've read about that owns one (including myself) have never had it snag on anything. It's light, it fits tighter than any other collapsible butt stock I own with no wiggle and they look great IMO.

The rear hook also fits very comfortably in my hand to use as a support.

[DJL2]

That's strange because everyone I've read about that owns one (including myself) have never had it snag on anything. It's light, it fits tighter than any other collapsible butt stock I own with no wiggle and they look great IMO.

The rear hook also fits very comfortably in my hand to use as a support.

What can I say? I suppose I don't pass the 10% rule. FWIW, I have the same problem with BCM Gunfighter Charging handles with the large latch (and the med to a lesser extent). Loved 'em, ran 'em, enjoyed 'em - until I started carrying them and not just shooting them.

[biodsl]

I swapped out my adjustable for the Magpul fixed MOE in rifle length and I couldn't be happier. I was worried that LOP would be too long for me because I'm short and stocky but I love it. The stock and shooting position comfort are so important to me. No wobble.... perfect cheek weld..... good price.

I have both the fixed MOE and ACS-L. I prefer the fixed MOE. The ACS-L actually has a longer length of pull if that is a factor for you.

[DJL2]

I have both the fixed MOE and ACS-L. I prefer the fixed MOE. The ACS-L actually has a longer length of pull if that is a factor for you.

Is that their fixed MOE on the carbine extension? I was looking at that and...well...it IS tempting. I need to double check my typical LOP setup here and compare, I suppose.

[The Profit Joseph Sith]

I hope you took Klems advice in the 1st post reply. I used Magpul's MOE Rifle Fixed Stocks on all long range hunting AR's because I want a solid platform for accuracy. This last Saturday I put one of them through the ultimate test. My son and I were tracking an injured bear through the bottom of a very nasty AZ canyon over boulders the size of trucks while wearing packs. I lost my footing on a rock-slide and slid 30 ft using the stock as a trekking pole/rudder trying to protect the rest of the rifle and my arm. We were amazed that the stock survived with just some unique new textures. The buffer tube was undamaged also.

Lol love your signature. Jealous 1 here.
It amazes me those buffer tubes don't break more often or all the time. I was pretty giddy when I recently found a VSeven 316 SS buffer tube it strong as hell compared to the alum. Ones. Not light though obviously.

[bj139]

Midway has the UTG A2 stock, back in stock. I just bought another one last night. A2 stocks rock.

Now I have to start milling out a lower to have something to use it with.