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08-05-2020, 08:19 PM
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I'm new to the forum and working on my first ar build. I wanted something I could use for deer hunting and a hog hunt when I make it down to Florida to visit my buddy stationed at Tindall afb. After much rearesearch I chose the 6.5 grendel. I ordered a bear creek arsenal upper that I have been using on the lower off of my ruger ar556. I would like to get a dedicated lower for it but not sure which one to buy. I like the looks of some of the psa ones, but have heard mixed reviews. The stags look nice but they can't even tell me when they will even be back in stock.
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Welcome to the horde sir.
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Welcome to the forum MISportsman. Assembling a lower is not difficult. Best price Ive seen for a stripped lower is Primary Arms who has Anderson stripped lowers for $48. Get a LaRue MBT 2S trigger, LPK minus trigger and grip then order the stock and grip of your choice. The real difference between stripped lowers are the roll mark identifying the manufacture. Aero Precision upper and lowers get good reviews but more expensive.
Watch for sales at PSA, Joeboboutfiiters, Primary Arms and Right to Bear. Even in the buying frenzy you might find the parts to get a lower.
https://www.larue.com/products/larue-tac...s-trigger/
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Welcome from Floridas Spacecoast
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Thanks for the warm welcome! All of your advice is appreciated as well
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What is the best magazine? They all seem to be out of stock but the ar stoner at midway
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08-10-2020, 01:43 PM
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I just got two 20 round CPD/Duramag 6.5 Grendel mags from Aim Surplus ($18.95 each). I havent thoroughly tested these two mags but so far they appear to be gtg. I did a review on these mags. The best price Ive found for E-Lander 6.5 Grendel mags is LaRue Tactical. Alexander Arms also sell the E-Lander mags and Brownells sell ASC & E-Lander. Joe Bob Outfitters had CPD Duramags in stock yesterday.
The AR Stoner mags are rebranded ASC. At one time Alexander Arms has sold the original C Products then ASC mag with the AA marked floor plate. When E-Lander 6.5 Grendel mags were introduced AA dropped the ASC and started selling E-Lander marked as Alexander Arms.
I have original CP, ASC, E-L and CPD/D of different capacities. All my current mags function but Ive had to tweak two mags to get reliable function. One 25 round ASC needed a slight adjustment to the feed lips to feed from the non ejection port side. One 24 one E-Lander had rough welds on the inside of the spine dragging on the follower. A few passes with a hand file fixed the E-Lander mag.
I like the size of the 15 round ASC, 17 round E-L and 20 round CPD/D best. I use my 24/25 round mags the least unless shooting off hand at closer range. For bench use I like the ten round and mid size 15,17,20 round mags. I use the mid size mags the most. All the mags have their advantages and disadvantages but all have had lemons hit the market. If you buy 6.5 Grendel mags buy from a vendor with good customer service in case you get a lemon. LaRue web site doesnt show current inventory but Ive always gotten my mags. You can call and verify if they have mags in stock.
Here is a link to the 20 round CPD/D review.
http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthrea...mag-review
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08-10-2020, 01:59 PM
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Thank you I will check that out. I ordered a couple of 10 rd e-lander mags from laRue but they didn't tell me they were on backorder until I got the conformation email.
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Welcome to the clan, MIS, from the great nation of Texas! All things considered, there is very little difference between lowers other than cosmetics and whether they are forged or billet. Basically, get what your pocket dictates. Put your money in the barrel, then the trigger, then the optics. Then just make sure of the best mounting process ( true it then glue it ) to mate the barrel to the upper receiver. The rest will almost take care of itself.
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The owner of my local gun shop says the Anderson lowers are crap and the holes aren't drilled properly. Is there any truth to this?
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MIS, your LGS guy is something kin to a forty pound hummingbird.
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Love the analogy, that's outstanding!
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I have used a significant number of Anderson's and have never had an issue. I have gotten others that I will never be able to use because the firing control holes don't line up.
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From what I have found the andersons and the high dollar ones are the only ones places have in stock. None of the middle of the road ones anywhere
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MISportsman Wrote:From what I have found the andersons and the high dollar ones are the only ones places have in stock. None of the middle of the road ones anywhere
Right now stocks are low or gone.
You are going to have to buy more than you want and part it out and sell what you don't want.
You can either:
1) Go over to ar15.com and search the Equipment Exchange for something used.
2) Go to CDNN Sports.
https://www.cdnnsports.com/dpms-ar15-low...l?___SID=U
3) Keep searching everywhere for in stock lowers.
How is the BCA upper shooting? Usually people lose the barrel lottery with their products.
In stock DPMS unassembled upper/lower/buffer/stock for $299. Sell or keep what you don't want to use.
You are going to have to buy more than you want and sell the extra.
And if you spend 2 weeks getting used to this concept, the CDNN set might be gone.
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MIS, the key careabouts are the barrel, fire control and optics. Next is the upper, the rest is cosmetic and aesthetic. As for the lowers, other than cosmetics, the only difference is whether it is billet or forged, and that really doesn't make much difference in the lower (the upper is a different story - I will NEVER use a billet upper ). If the lower assembles properly ( and 99.99999975% of them will ) then run what ever you want to. For the upper, forged ones are substantially stronger but sometimes the crown of the barrel extension needs to be true'ed. There is a tool for such, only takes a moment with a hand drill to do so. I primarily use BCM uppers, have to freeze the barrel, CAREFULLY heat the upper and then breed 'em. Then, if the barrel isn't an interference fit, then ( as per many discussions across these pages ) use Loctite or similar to glue it in while supporting it vertically by the upper receiver. Torque it properly, finish the upper out and then go play!
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The bca upper so far seems to be good. I.have only tried it out on my ruger ar556 lower with hornady black ammo shooting off a balled up jacket on my pickup hood and considering that am happy with the groups so far. When I get to shoot it off the bench I'll let you know for sure how it shoots. Thank you for the great advice on the build!
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Howdy from the greatest country in the world. Youll find lots of useful information here.
