why are 6.5 grendels and .264 LBC rifles so expensive? I have a local shop that specializes in semiautos AR15, AR10, AK's and i can get a complete 5.56 rifle brand new, free floated, with a case and mags and lots of cool stuff for 850. Does anyone make any grendels at that price? why do they cost so much?
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The only difference in cost is the barrel. The Grendel has been a relatively low volume item, so the barrel costs have been somewhat higher.
However, if you compare Grendels set up with comparable barrels to 5.56 there is no real difference in price. Most Grendels simply have higher end barrels.
That said, compare J&T uppers for Grendel and 5.56, there is not a lot of difference, and even there, most of it simply is the barrels cost more because there are not as many barrel builders.
http://jtdistributing.net/store/page148.html
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No big names ( big in numbers, not reputation) produce LBCs or grendels. When the mass-market mfrs start making good 6.5s and .264s, the economy of scale will undoubtedly kick in and drop prices. That will happen when demand ( and therefore the chance for profit ) gets big enough; I've emailed RRA and Wilson Combat, for instance, asking about any plans for a Grendel ( neither has any plans for a Grendel, btw). If everybody does that, some of the "names' will probably start producing.
Look at .223/5.56 AR varmint guns; you can get a fantastically accurate rifle for around $1K from several makers.
A Grendel can be put together for that same price, considering that barrel/bolt combos are $269. What are we comparing Grendel prices to again? They are no different than a 5.56 AR15, in my experience.
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I have built a few AR's over the years and it all comes down to about the same thing with cars. How fast (accurate) do you want to go...how much money do you want to spend. If you want an ammo blaster that MAY shoot accurately then buy a less pricey barrel/bolt combo. If you want a barrel/bolt that will have a better chance to shoot accurately then you will have to spend more money, same as a 5.56. The higher end barrel makers tend to have good customer service because their reputation is on the line.
thanks Bwaites for the link to jt distributing. Their 20 inch grendel is cool, but id rather have one with a free float quadrail, gas block, and flip sights. i wish they had a price for something like that. I have watched gunbroker and looked over classifieds at various sites and I don't think i have ever seen a new free floated grendel with case and mags for 850. Used rifles i have seen for that though. To me they still seem a few hundred more than an AR whether you buy just the upper or the whole rifle. Anyone else got any infor on where to look. I have made it through christmas and tax time with a little extra loot, almost got enough saved to get serious!
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J&T will build you a freefloat rifle as well. Just call and ask.
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02-07-2012, 09:40 PM
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hydrotech Wrote:why are 6.5 grendels and .264 LBC rifles so expensive? It is to keep poor people from having them. If the poor people got them they would use the power of this weapon to take from the wealthy. The wealthy would no longer have superior weapons, and soon they would disappear. The ramifications of this are huge. The world order would change for the worse. There would be no more polite discourse on forums over what is better Grendel or SPC. Instead hearty bands of Grendeliers would be engaged in running gun battles with swarthy SPCialists, filthy 55Sixers or even addled AKers. Don't rock the boat pay the high prices and know you are doing your part in preserving the American way.
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Grendeliers
Now that's cool
Got mine from Model1 sales. Just put together. Pleased so far. Just waiting for decent weather to run some through.
rasp65 Wrote:It is to keep poor people from having them. If the poor people got them they would use the power of this weapon to take from the wealthy. The wealthy would no longer have superior weapons, and soon they would disappear. The ramifications of this are huge. The world order would change for the worse. There would be no more polite discourse on forums over what is better Grendel or SPC. Instead hearty bands of Grendeliers would be engaged in running gun battles with swarthy SPCialists, filthy 55Sixers or even addled AKers. Don't rock the boat pay the high prices and know you are doing your part in preserving the American way.
hahahahaha, greatness spews from this one
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Perfect post, rasp65.
Better to be part of a hearty band than swarthy, filthy, or addled!
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Wow.... I never thought of it through that lense. I'm not sure, but I don't think I'm rich. Maybe I better rethink all this.
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If you've got one of each does that make you hearty, swarthy, filthy and addled?
Reminds me of a few nights I had before I gave up the sauce!
To the OP. Mines a J&T. I got it together for less than $800 not including optics. So far it's boringly accurate. You could also buy a complete and sell off the 5.56 barrel and bolt to offset the cost of the Grendel goodies. To be honest though, it's only money. Spend what you need to to get a quality rifle. It will out shoot and outlast you. A good rifle is an investment. A bad one is a paperweight.
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Well put rasperizer! Let's keep the bums off of our ship of us 6.5 Grendel horders, we'll all sail as a team! (( Don't try to sell me a 6.8 !, or one of them dang 6.5 sporters, etc. Use the real Grendel-nothing less will do!!!!!!!)) Save up if need be to buy better gear! We got plenty of time-and patience-- We'll wait for ya-here! - maybe w/ less adjectives,eh? AAARRRGG ! Think---we're gonna conquer a new world, all of us in the Grrr... gang! We can't accept knockoff -cheapo stuff-as it's not up to standards. Get a Sammi certified upper-in 6.5 Grrr.
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I may not be rich in $$$$....... But I am Ballistically Blessed beyond my wildest dreams. Guns or Gold? Give me guns! I can use my guns to get what I really need. And if you do have Gold, you darn well better have a BUNCH of guns because you're going to need them.
Actually you just need 1 gun to keep your gold. A gun in 10.6x83mm  oh almost forgot a radio too.
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