05-04-2011, 01:57 AM
Well…
I did hunt with my grendel last year for deer season, and bagged a doe at about 75m with flip irons. I prolly will take it again this year, But that is not my chief purpose for the carbine.
The 16” carbine version I own is obviously not intended as a specialty long distance rifle. That being said What I would like to find for my rifle is a good all purpose optic that will allow me to engage targets anywhere from CQC out to and in excess of 500m. Specifically allowing me to push the envelope of how far I can shoot effectively with out giving up the ability to quickly engage targets at close distances as well.
With targets corresponding to 300m and closer an all purpose zero can be achieved that will put my point of impact close enough to be effective with out the need of bdc.
The maximum effective range for a 16” 5.56 m4 is 500m for a point target and 600m for an area. I have seen shots made with an m4 beyond 600m.
What I really want to find out is, when firing a more efficient 6.5mm round out of a similar carbine how far can I push out the maximum effective range? Not just of the rifle of coarse but of the me+rifle+optic combination.
I know that The bdc will never be perfect not only because it is not intended for the drop of this round + rifle but also because there are all sorts of other external factors affecting the round such as temp, elevation, humidity, ECT… however if I can find an optic with a close bdc in access of 500m. I can then begin to gather more dope and experience with limitations and abilities this optic+rifle+me combination.
Really what I am keeping my eyes out for is a 1-4x or preferably 1-6x optic with adequate bdc for 6.5mm out to beyond 600m. and basically go on from there building personal marksmanship abilities with this specific platform/combination.
I am however limited in my budget, I can just go blow a few thousand on a new optic, similarly if I am going to shell out the cash to get an optic, I want it to fulfill my expectations and needs adequately. Nothing worse than shelling out for something that ain’t right or not really what you wanted.
I have checked out many, many different optics and the data they have for bdc built for 308 and 556in different scopes. some seem close, others seem way off at even 400m-500m distances.
still on the look out for the right one for me...
So that’s the skinny…
I did hunt with my grendel last year for deer season, and bagged a doe at about 75m with flip irons. I prolly will take it again this year, But that is not my chief purpose for the carbine.
The 16” carbine version I own is obviously not intended as a specialty long distance rifle. That being said What I would like to find for my rifle is a good all purpose optic that will allow me to engage targets anywhere from CQC out to and in excess of 500m. Specifically allowing me to push the envelope of how far I can shoot effectively with out giving up the ability to quickly engage targets at close distances as well.
With targets corresponding to 300m and closer an all purpose zero can be achieved that will put my point of impact close enough to be effective with out the need of bdc.
The maximum effective range for a 16” 5.56 m4 is 500m for a point target and 600m for an area. I have seen shots made with an m4 beyond 600m.
What I really want to find out is, when firing a more efficient 6.5mm round out of a similar carbine how far can I push out the maximum effective range? Not just of the rifle of coarse but of the me+rifle+optic combination.
I know that The bdc will never be perfect not only because it is not intended for the drop of this round + rifle but also because there are all sorts of other external factors affecting the round such as temp, elevation, humidity, ECT… however if I can find an optic with a close bdc in access of 500m. I can then begin to gather more dope and experience with limitations and abilities this optic+rifle+me combination.
Really what I am keeping my eyes out for is a 1-4x or preferably 1-6x optic with adequate bdc for 6.5mm out to beyond 600m. and basically go on from there building personal marksmanship abilities with this specific platform/combination.
I am however limited in my budget, I can just go blow a few thousand on a new optic, similarly if I am going to shell out the cash to get an optic, I want it to fulfill my expectations and needs adequately. Nothing worse than shelling out for something that ain’t right or not really what you wanted.
I have checked out many, many different optics and the data they have for bdc built for 308 and 556in different scopes. some seem close, others seem way off at even 400m-500m distances.
still on the look out for the right one for me...
So that’s the skinny…
