thinking bad thoughts... need help

[lazyengineer]

Just weight a FAXON GUNNER 16"; it's even lighter at 24.7 oz.

[imaguy3]

Went out shooting today with a buddy who brought a new AR10 he just bought... We were setting up and I asked him where it was b/c I saw an AR15 on his tailgate. As luck would have it he just bought the 16" sfar! ha...

I'll be damned if that thing didn't feel and look like a standard ar15. Even the outside of the mag well area didn't seem any different. The only visible difference is the barrel, and then two holes drilled in the upper where the bolt head locks into the barrel extension. Shame on me for not taking pictures

Anyway... Even with that big muzzle break, shooting 150gr really did thump the shoulder more than my grendel.

It didn't hiccup once and it went through 60 rounds without issue. Accuracy was nothing to write home about, about 1.5moa with Federal Powershok and Norma Whitetail 308.

The grendel though is definitely going to stick around, just too shoft shooting and more enjoyable than the 308 for sure.

[LRRPF52]

I have 7x 6.5 Grendels, 1x .260 Rem LR-260 custom build from GAP, the Savage MSR-10 in .308 Win., and another LR-308 upper with a DPMS 18” fluted SASS barrel.

I don’t think I’ve shot the .260 Rem since 2015 and even though I bought the MSR-10 16” .308 3 years ago, I still haven’t shot it.

If I’m making consistent hits with the 12” Grendel at the ranges that I am and can watch my own impacts with minimal effort, there isn’t much incentive to shoot the others.

I put the .260 Rem back together last week to show my son what it looks like assembled.

The main 2 ARs I take out are the 12” Grendel and the 17.6” Lilja Grendel.

I’ll be focusing on the 10.5” Grendel more once I get a can for it.

[trubulator]

I guess I am not sure what the fuss is about. Yeah, I like light, handy rifles in a lot of use cases. Tromping umpteen miles at altitude make me appreciate an 8 pound rifle. That said, a couple of pounds really shouldn't be that big a deal. If it is, go through your pack and dump some superfluous crap you don't need to be carrying and stop worrying about the rifle. If it shoots well and does what you want it to, where is the problem? I guess to my way of thinking, even my heavy barrel 20" Grendel AR that weighs 11 pounds before I slap a mag in is way handier than the 32" barreled Zoli Zouave that I use in muzzleloader season.

[imaguy3]

I guess I am not sure what the fuss is about. Yeah, I like light, handy rifles in a lot of use cases. Tromping umpteen miles at altitude make me appreciate an 8 pound rifle. That said, a couple of pounds really shouldn't be that big a deal. If it is, go through your pack and dump some superfluous crap you don't need to be carrying and stop worrying about the rifle. If it shoots well and does what you want it to, where is the problem? I guess to my way of thinking, even my heavy barrel 20" Grendel AR that weighs 11 pounds before I slap a mag in is way handier than the 32" barreled Zoli Zouave that I use in muzzleloader season.

Just caught me off guard to see a simple AR15 sized gun (before accessories) weighing as much as an AR10 sized gun (before accessories) ... or in the case of the Ruger, a couple pounds more...

[biodsl]

I guess I am not sure what the fuss is about. Yeah, I like light, handy rifles in a lot of use cases.

I took and 11 pound, 22" Grendel to Thunder Ranch a couple of years ago for their Scoped AR course. The rifle was a total joy, prone, from 100 to 700 yards. It just knocked 'em down. But after a 10-minute drill of positional and off-hand shooting, I was ready for a shorter, lighter rifle. Removing the 1-pound Harris bipod off before starting would have been smart.

[trubulator]

Just caught me off guard to see a simple AR15 sized gun (before accessories) weighing as much as an AR10 sized gun (before accessories) ... or in the case of the Ruger, a couple pounds more...

Optimizee the platform for your needs. Its not hard to build an ultra light AR, just add cash.

[Bonas]

Why not put the existing rifle on a diet? Start with the scope and mount. Leupold makes the best, reasonably-priced lightweight scopes currently, in my opinion. Consider a shorter, lighter handguard next. Ditch all accessories you don't need. Direct thread the can, if that's option. Consider a lightweight JP bolt carrier group and adjustable gas block if you still need to drop weight.

[drewthebrave]

Why not put the existing rifle on a diet? Start with the scope and mount. Leupold makes the best, reasonably-priced lightweight scopes currently, in my opinion. Consider a shorter, lighter handguard next. Ditch all accessories you don't need. Direct thread the can, if that's option. Consider a lightweight JP bolt carrier group and adjustable gas block if you still need to drop weight.

I agree. The best opportunities to save weight are:

1. Optic/Mount - avoid Aero Precision mounts - I'm 50/50 with the ones I've tried; Leupold, Nightforce, or Warne are 100% solid and worth the extra money, and only weigh a couple ounces more.
2. Barrel - Faxon on a budget; Proof carbon fiber if you have $$$. Yours isn't bad at 26oz, so I'm not sure this would be my top priority.
3. Handguard - check out Smoke Composites, Coda Evolution, Brigand Arms, etc for super light carbon fiber handguards. Depending on your rail, you could save 10 oz or more.
4. Stock - Stocks can be anywhere from several ounces to a couple pounds. Pick one you like, but look up the weight - many are heavier than you'd think.