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its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Kikn - 02-22-2014
I just got my steel targets from the group buy. 8" and 12"
And I also got the rest of the parts for my lilja build.
PF completed upper
PF super match bolt
PF mid-length Gas tube
All came in the mail today
Other parts that I already had.
YHM-15 hand guard
Syriac ordnance adjustable gas block
Lilja barrel 18.5" (319 profile)
AAC 7.62 51 tooth QD flash hider
AAC 7.62 SDN-MOD8 Suppressor
Going on a AA lower
Magpul UBR Stock
AA tactical trigger (mega)
I won't have time to get it put together this weekend as I have to hit the ranch and fill feeders and no time to shoot. I will hopefully have it together by March 1 weekend and ringing some steel. Maybe even hit liberty hill. I'll upload more pics once its completed.
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - mongoosesnipe - 02-22-2014
Is the shoe in the picture for scale.... Cause you listed sizes for the targets and barrel.... Are you trying to brag about you r shoe size? Just kidding
It should stack up to a pretty nice gun
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Kikn - 02-22-2014
Shoe is just for braggin.... I mean scale....lol
I may try and find sometime tomorrow to get the gun pit together but I may just be driving all day.
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Kikn - 02-25-2014
So I take my gun to the smith to just put the upper together as I don't have any of the tools to do it myself. I hand over the parts and walk around the store patiently waiting for about an hour.
Finally its done I get called to come over and take a look. I walk over and check things out. First thing I notice is the flash hider isn't timed correctly its off by about 30° and one of the screws for the handguard is now broken.
Not so tragic....yet....
So Lee starts to talk to me about what was done and one of the first things he says , to my dismay, is that everything is OK and he fired 3 rounds and it all checked out okay....
Well first thing I ask is if he ran a brush down the barrel...why would I ask that might you ask..... well leave it to procrastination or what have you. I never took the time to removed the burr from the barrel that was by the gas port, and didn't mention it because it never occurred to be that anyone besides me would fire the first shot.
Even still you would think that someone putting a gun together would check the barrel or look for any obstruction prior to shooting.
Anyway, after I shook my head in disbelief and told him of the folly. He started to back track and say he did run a brush down it which later turned into I ran a patch down it followed by patronizing well don't you lubricate the barrel first yada yada.
I'm a calm individual and didn't raise a big scene but I did speak to others in charge and made them aware of the situation. and the other issues with the work done to the rifle. Obviously my confidence in the work is rattled. They do there best to show me a bore scope and I can't see any obvious scratches. And I'm not sure if I would be able to locate any damage on my own.
I guess its possible I got lucky and didn't get any damage to the barrel but then again I may just not know what to look for either.any ideas what I should be looking for once I have it taken apart?
I do plan on having someone else look at it as a second opinion.
Any thoughts?
Also to note. They had the gun in the back working on it again for an extended amount of time. Is there something I should look for if they were able to buff any damage out somehow?
They also said they would replace the barrel if I can find any damage. Then one guy says tell ya what just go out and shoot it and if its off let us know otherwise well just call it square and it'll be ok.
Obviously I'm not going to shoot it until someone else looks at it.
Kind of ticked off about it but I do feel partially responsible for not giving a heads up on the burr.
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - LRRPF52 - 02-25-2014
I thought you were going to put it together yourself. Arrrrgghhhhhhhh! What screw(s) did they break? So test-fire was not mentioned to you when you agreed to the work?
I would not shoot it, because then "You did that." Hence the encouragement for you to go shoot it. With the bore scope, you will want someone to look at the port first, analyze the area around it, then work forward from it at 12 o'clock within the barrel. If there is any missing section of steel in front of the port, that would be an indicator of damage to the bore. Any abnormal striations in front of the port along that land or groove would also indicate damage from a burr that was dragged down the pipe violently.
Where did they get the ammunition to test-fire it? Did they have it on-hand and not even check with you that it was ok to fire through your blaster?
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Tedward - 02-25-2014
Did Lilja hand lap the barrel after they drilled the port? Seems if they would drill then lap. Check with them for there process.
Also wondered where the ammo even came from. So they have some on hand for sale? Wonder if they really test fired it and I would get my money back for the HG. If they broke a screw it might be misaligned or cross threaded.
That sucks but call Lilja before driving yourself crazy
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Kikn - 02-25-2014
LRRPF52 Wrote:I thought you were going to put it together yourself.
Normally I do mechanical work myself. It never fails that anytime I let someone touch my car or anything else they screw it up. Which is why I do all my work on my cars, trucks, motorcycles including engine/transmission repair. I guess I should make room for a vice and get tools for my own repairs.
LRRPF52 Wrote:Arrrrgghhhhhhhh! What screw(s) did they break?
The one that holds the handgaurd on. They said they would have to order a new screw for it.
LRRPF52 Wrote:So test-fire was not mentioned to you when you agreed to the work?
No mention of a test fire was talked about prior to me handing over the rifle and parts. Not even a sign stating as much. I was told it was store policy. If it were policy you would think they would let people know. I think he just wanted to shoot it. Kind of peeves me now that I have 3 rounds down the tube and didn't go through the recommended barrel break in proceedures. Even though I don't think it really matters that much I don't think its that big of a deal. Even though when I handed the barrel over I had the instructions with the barrel still so obviously he just totatlly disregarded that paper that Lilja put in for break in.
LRRPF52 Wrote:I would not shoot it, because then "You did that." Hence the encouragement for you to go shoot it.
That was my thinking as well.
LRRPF52 Wrote:With the bore scope, you will want someone to look at the port first, analyze the area around it, then work forward from it at 12 o'clock within the barrel. If there is any missing section of steel in front of the port, that would be an indicator of damage to the bore. Any abnormal striations in front of the port along that land or groove would also indicate damage from a burr that was dragged down the pipe violently..
Thats what I was trying to look for I couldn't see anything but then again I don't really have a trained eye for such a thing. Even though i would think it would stick out like a sore thumb.
LRRPF52 Wrote:Where did they get the ammunition to test-fire it? Did they have it on-hand and not even check with you that it was ok to fire through your blaster?
They don't have any 6.5 on the shelves and I have never even seen it in their stores. So I didn't think they would even have a way to fire any rounds at all.
One of the guys had a box in the back for whatever reason. Factory hornady 123 A-max, never came to me and asked if it was Ok to shoot.
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Kikn - 02-25-2014
Tedward Wrote:Did Lilja hand lap the barrel after they drilled the port? Seems if they would drill then lap. Check with them for there process.
Also wondered where the ammo even came from. So they have some on hand for sale? Wonder if they really test fired it and I would get my money back for the HG. If they broke a screw it might be misaligned or cross threaded.
That sucks but call Lilja before driving yourself crazy
It was recommened by Lilja on one of the Group Buy threads to just run a wet brass brush down the barrel and push the burr out as it would not damage the barrel. They said to NOT FIRE A ROUND without pushing a brush through as it could damage the barrel.
I'm going to take it to another gunsmith and get them to look at it for me and get thoughts and opinions.
I'll try and call Lilja today and see what they have to say.
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Grendanimal - 02-25-2014
Tedward Wrote:Did Lilja hand lap the barrel after they drilled the port? Seems if they would drill then lap.
I spoke with Dan Lilja a few weeks ago. He said that they drill the gas port after lapping.
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Tedward - 02-25-2014
Good info because I have not set mine up yet, waiting for weather to brake and I have time to go thru everything. Hope it turns out with good news and they get you the HG screw for you.
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Grendanimal - 02-25-2014
Tedward Wrote:Good info because I have not set mine up yet, waiting for weather to brake and I have time to go thru everything.
The weather? I did my barrel break-in in -2 F. What are you waiting for?
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Kikn - 02-27-2014
Prerty excited about my good news. I got a few opinions on the barrel and everyone says it looks good. I'll post a couple of pics later on tonight. I'm going to break in the barrel this weekend and maybe even shoot a pig.
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Kikn - 02-27-2014
Its not a finished product by any means. I would still like to get it cerkoted not sure what configuration though. Anyway here's where I'm at.
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Variable - 02-27-2014
Bet she'll end up being a shooter, and I love your choice of can!
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its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Kikn - 02-27-2014
Thanks. I'll know for sure this weekend what she is capable of. Hopefully I remember to take a few photos of targets. Also anxious to see how it does with my suppressor.
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Kikn - 03-01-2014
I got to break in the barrel today. I didn't get to finish and sight in the rifle at all. Out of 50 rounds only the last 10 were at paper. I had to end my session in a hurry before I wanted to. My friend had to show his ranch to a potential buyer and asked me to stop.
The 10 shots on paper were fired from an mildly supported position in rapid succesion with factory hornady 123sst. Most shots were within an inch and had a few outside the main area and opened up to less than 3" I think. Wind was picking up and gusty shooting off the back of my truck with a single sandbag. I'll see if I can find the target and take a photo.
I ran it through the chrony F1 I have and most of the time it registered around 2490-2520 low end was 2470 high end was 2580
I think it had to do with liquid in the barrel from cleaning causing increased pressure.
Cleaning it out was pretty easy it never got much copper fouling after the first few shots after that it was a small flake here or there. After a 5 shot string it didn't have any copper and at the end there wasn't any copper.
I didn't have a chance to chrony with the suppressor yet or zero the rifle. But moving the scope from the other barrel it was only a couple inches low at 100 although it was sighted in at 200 on the other rifle. So it shouldn't take long to get it where I need it to be.
BTW one dead pig this morning shot with a .260 by my friend after he went out to look for his cell phone that fell out if the jeep in the oat field last night. He claims the pig was trying to eat his phone and it was in his mouth.....he'd probably still be looking for it if he hasn't of got that porker.
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - NugginFutz - 03-01-2014
Kikn Wrote:BTW one dead pig this morning shot with a .260 by my friend after he went out to look for his cell phone that fell out if the jeep in the oat field last night. He claims the pig was trying to eat his phone and it was in his mouth.....he'd probably still be looking for it if he hasn't of got that porker.
Maybe the pig was calling for a pizza?
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Kikn - 03-01-2014
Wiw!!! Now I'm hungry and pizza sounds so good
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Kikn - 03-02-2014
Dug out the feed sack with the first 10 on paper. Looks like its going to be good. I'll try and get some groups tomorrow and see how well it can do.
its beginning to look alot like xmas....to soon... - Kikn - 03-03-2014
Weather isn't going to cooperate... still haven't sighted in the gun. But I'm going to liberty hill for sure tomorrow so I'll sight it in there. And try my luck at distance in the rain and cold. Hopefully its covered....