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lots o' 2A news - Nukes - 07-02-2013 The ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) doesnt just want a huge database to reveal everything about you [and your firearms] with a few keywords. It wants one that can find out who you know. And it wont even try to friend you on Facebook first. --Wired http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/04/atf-database/ -- from Defensive Use of Firearms http://spw-duf.info The Power to Tax...: Liberals are trying every tool at their disposal this year to go after guns. They have failed on Capitol Hill to restrict the Second Amendment, so they are moving through the states to enact their agenda. The latest maneuver is to hike the tax on guns and ammunition to dissuade the law-abiding from buying firearms. Its the perfect storm of liberalism more revenue for a bigger government and fewer people keeping and bearing arms. President Obamas hometown of Chicago started the movement late last year by enacting a $25 tax on new firearm purchases, which went into effect on April 1. Cook County stopped just short of adding a levy on ammunition... http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/25/taxing-the-second-amendment/?page=all -- Mark and Gabby to Hit the Road: Former Rep. Gabby Giffords couldnt get Washington to heed her call for tighter background checks on gun buyers, so shes taking her case directly to the states of several senators to pressure them to switch their votes. Giffords, who hasnt ruled out taking target practice on the tour, announced Tuesday morning that she and her husband, former astronaut Mark Kelly, will be taking new polling data to Nevada, Alaska, North Dakota, North Carolina, Ohio, Maine and New Hampshire to illustrate their argument that lawmakers who support 2nd Amendment gun rights will prosper not suffer if they vote for stricter background-check measures, too... (As I have said before, lies, damned lies and polls.) http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/gabby-giffords-mark-kelly-gun-background-checks-93320.html?hp=f2 -- The Other Bus Tour: The "No More Names: National Drive to Reduce Gun Violence" rally in Atlanta today was more heavily attended by counter-ralliers from GeorgiaCarry.org by a margin of approximately two to one than by MAIG supporters. The rally was held at the State Capitol. The media covering the event also seemed to outnumber the Mayors Against Illegal Guns attendees. The GeorgiaCarry members were evident by their orange "Guns Save Lives" buttons. The Executive Director of GeorgiaCarry, Jerry Henry was present. The event began with a reading of alleged murder victims killed by guns. However, one counter protestor carried a sign indicating that the list may not be all murder victims but is also heavily populated with justifiable homicides and suicides. A counter-rallier carried a sign pointing out that the Boston Marathon bomber shot and killed by police is one of the names on the list... http://www.examiner.com/article/mayors-against-illegal-guns-rally-only-lightly-attended-by-supporters -- MAIG Loses Another Member: If New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and his national group, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, want to pick a fight with U.S. Sen. Kelly Ayotte, Nashua Mayor Donnalee Lozeau wants no part of it. Lozeau, a Republican, was a member of the mayors group but said she removed her name from the group of more than 900 mayors in early May when she learned of ads targeting Ayotte, also a Republican. Lozeau, when reached for comment by The Telegraph, requested to only respond to questions in a written statement... (Nashua is the second largest city in the state.) http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/1008955-469/nashua-mayor-pulls-name-from-controversial-gun.html -- lots o' 2A news - Nukes - 07-02-2013 Second Recall Drive Advances in Colorado: A second Colorado recall drive fueled by a backlash against the state’s newly passed gun-control laws cleared its first hurdle Monday after the petition signatures were deemed sufficient to proceed. Colorado Secretary of State Scott Gessler announced that proponents had submitted 12,648 valid signatures, or 1,363 more than the 11,285 signatures needed to force a recall election of Democratic state Sen. Angela Giron. The recall group, Pueblo Freedom and Rights, submitted a total of 13,466 signatures on its recall petitions about two weeks ago... http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/jun/24/2nd-colo-democrat-may-face-recall-anti-gun-votes/ -- Illinois Wins Another Delay: The U.S. Supreme Court granted an extension Tuesday for Illinois's attorney general to decide whether to appeal a court order permitting the state's gun owners to carry concealed firearms. Justice Elena Kagan granted a delay until July 22, essentially a second 30 days of leeway that allows Attorney General Lisa Madigan time to craft a response. She could also scuttle the whole matter if Gov. Pat Quinn signs concealed-carry legislation awaiting his response. That's a separate deadline than the one on July 9, by which time Quinn must decide whether to make it legal to carry concealed guns... Madigan has said she needed the extra time to fashion a response based on other recent federal appellate court rulings, as well Quinn's decision. If Quinn signs the bill, she noted, an appeal would be moot... (My recollection is that the bill was passed by a veto-proof supermajority and that Madigan is expected to challenge Quinn in the next gubernatorial race.) http://www.sj-r.com/breaking/x871007557/U-S-Supreme-Court-grants-Madigan-more-time-on-guns#axzz2WekvpNXV -- Pending in New York: Top law enforcement officials have filed court affirmations in support of New York's new gun control law, the SAFE Act as state lawyers moved to dismiss a federal challenge to the law brought by the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association. Nassau County District Attorney Kathleen Rice, Rochester Police Chief James Sheppard and a top State Police lawyer all filed sworn statements as part of over 100 pages filed by Attorney General Eric Schneiderman in reply to the suit, brought in March in a federal court in Buffalo... The lawsuit filed by the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association and several individual plaintiffs – including Assemblyman Bill Nojay, R-Monroe County – contends in part that the SAFE Act infringes on New Yorkers' Second Amendment rights because it impedes their ability to defend themselves in their own homes... http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Both-sides-reloading-for-state-gun-law-fight-4619931.php -- Gun Bills Advance in Rhode Island: The House Judiciary Committee passed three firearms bills Monday – the first such legislation to make it out of a committee since Governor Chafee and legislative leaders proposed a package of gun bills more than two months ago. Two bills would tighten existing laws on stolen guns and firearms with obliterated ID marks. A third sets up a task force to guide Rhode Island in submitting records on mental illness and substance abuse into background checks for firearms purchases. All three bills were amended after legislators consulted with gun lobbyists, some of whom were present at Monday’s votes... http://www.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/content/20130625-gun-control-bills-clear-r.i.-house-judiciary-committee.ece -- [Schumer's political capital]: The expected passage of immigration reform this week will hand Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) the biggest legislative triumph of his Senate career and bolster his case to someday become Democratic leader. Schumer strenuously avoids speculation about his political future or talk about what will happen when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) decides to step down. But there’s no doubt among his Senate Democratic colleagues and aides that Schumer wants to succeed Reid. The bipartisan passage of a landmark immigration bill will go a long way in addressing any lingering concerns about his ability to lead the Democratic caucus... (A Schumer leadership of the Senate is reportedly the reason that NRA tacitly supported Reid's re-election.) http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/307509-sen-charles-schumers-stock-on-the-rise lots o' 2A news - Nukes - 07-02-2013 In view of the finding by the Marvelettes... er... Supremes... that there is an individual RKBA, one wonders how (other than sheer legal positivism) any tax on firearms can be sustained. Just as poll taxes were struck down, so too should all taxes on firearms, ammo, and components be struck down. lots o' 2A news - Trooper - 07-02-2013 Notice that they do not comment on how much of the gun violence is done by protected groups within the democrats. Or that most of the mass shootings were done by those who had ties to the left. One wonders if some of these "crazies" were not wound up and set lose by someone..... lots o' 2A news - stokesrj - 07-02-2013 Nukes Wrote:In view of the finding by the Marvelettes... er... Supremes... that there is an individual RKBA, one wonders how (other than sheer legal positivism) any tax on firearms can be sustained. Wait, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. You may not be aware, but the Pitman Roberson tax on guns and ammunition is the major funding for our wildlife conservation, usually pays more than half the state fish and game, funds shooting ranges and hunter education programs. It's one of the best things our country has ever done with tax dollars. Bob lots o' 2A news - flemdoug - 07-03-2013 stokesrj Wrote:Wait, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. You may not be aware, but the Pitman Roberson tax on guns and ammunition is the major funding for our wildlife conservation, usually pays more than half the state fish and game, funds shooting ranges and hunter education programs. It's one of the best things our country has ever done with tax dollars. Bob, I agree that the Pittman Robertson tax has led to many wonderful outcomes, however, I would rather have sportsmen look for other ways to fund these programs. A tax on guns and ammunition is agnostic to whether or not the money is used to fund worthwhile projects or if the tax is used to prevent the purchases in the first place. If a tax on the purchase of guns and ammuntion is illegal with regard to the poll tax precedent, then the Pitman Robertson act should also be illegal. In a sane world I could live with the Pittman Robertson act (and have), but in today's environment, if it must sacrificed in order to stop or slowdown the assault on our constitutional right to bear arms... then that is fine with me. lots o' 2A news - Nukes - 07-03-2013 And the $200 tax stamps & registration mandated by GCA '34! And the 1986 machine gun freeze (by a disputed midnight no-quorum voice vote)! ...not that anyone should hold their breath that the Marvelettes will do anything about any of those problems. lots o' 2A news - JustMe - 07-14-2013 Nukes Wrote:And the $200 tax stamps & registration mandated by GCA '34! And the 1986 machine gun freeze (by a disputed midnight no-quorum voice vote)! ...not that anyone should hold their breath that the Marvelettes will do anything about any of those problems. That's the NFA of '34 (National Firearms Act). The Gun Control Act (GCA) is from '68. Sorry to be pedantic, but in order to fight these things properly we need to know the proper names or get mocked by the opposition. lots o' 2A news - ricsmall - 07-14-2013 flemdoug Wrote:Bob, I agree that the Pittman Robertson tax has led to many wonderful outcomes, however, I would rather have sportsmen look for other ways to fund these programs. A tax on guns and ammunition is agnostic to whether or not the money is used to fund worthwhile projects or if the tax is used to prevent the purchases in the first place. If a tax on the purchase of guns and ammuntion is illegal with regard to the poll tax precedent, then the Pitman Robertson act should also be illegal. In a sane world I could live with the Pittman Robertson act (and have), but in today's environment, if it must sacrificed in order to stop or slowdown the assault on our constitutional right to bear arms... then that is fine with me. no need to change whats been working since 1938! these monies also aid in wildlife restoration projects, and the WTD, wild turkey and other species have been restored using these monies. this is one thing that needs to be kept intact at all costs, unless we as sportsman can shell out the 250-320 million dollars it generates a year. No need to fix what isnt broke, this administration on the other hand?! Richard lots o' 2A news - Alex4922 - 07-15-2013 Great roundup of news Nukes, thanks. A lots o' 2A news - COTNTOP - 07-15-2013 Welfare and foodstamps helped the wildlife more than any firearm and ammo tax. Kept all the deadbeats out of the woods and on the front porch. When i was a kid there was nothing much to hunt. lots o' 2A news - LR1955 - 07-15-2013 Guys: Here we go again. Keep it on 2A issues or the thread will be locked. |