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So what the hell went on in Santa Monica, anyway? - TheOTHERmaninblack - 06-09-2013
Current reports have this guy toting around 1300 rounds of ammo! A little quick math tells me that-- if it was all 5.56 Tula like they show in the "arsenal" shot-- that's over forty pounds of ammunition!
And his arsenal? Since when do the cops leave out ANYthing that might be a black mark? I've seen arsenal shots displaying Red Ryder BB guns! But this shot shows a replica Remington cap and ball revolver and an AR upper. No complete rifle, no shotgun. There IS a box for a blackpowder rifle, though what that means eludes me. Maybe they're not showing the shotgun because it's a caplock or flintlock?
As for the 1300 rounds, they display what looks like around 120-130, depending on whether all of the Tula boxes are full or not, and how many rounds are in that baggie.
My guess is that we're about to see a push to mandate licensing and serial numbering of uppers, limiting them to face-to-face purchases at FFL's. Since the barreled upper is the part you can't print or cobble together out of Walmart cutting boards in your garage, this seems like the plausible move to circumvent the possibility of citizens continuing to arm themselves in spite of the government.
the 1300 round ammo count is just more "proof" that internet sales are bad, and just in time to catch the California Senate getting ready to vote on those prohibitive bills.
How far off am I?
So what the hell went on in Santa Monica, anyway? - Nukes - 06-10-2013
From some friends:
Santa Monica shooter
By David Hardy
Tucson attorney
Of Arms and the Law
9 June 2013
http://armsandthelaw.com/
Clayton Cramer has interesting thoughts. Reports indicate that the
shooter had (surprise!) serious mental health issues, which led to his
commitment (unknown if it was voluntary or involuntary, but if the
latter it's a bar to gun possession and should have flagged him).
California has had an "assault weapon ban" since the year he was born,
requires all sales to be after a background check since he was a
toddler, and banned transfers of larger magazines since he was eleven.
In short, he's an example of why (1) passing gun laws will not affect a
murderous mental case and (2) why we really need to fix the mental
health system.
* David T. Hardy is a private attorney and has practiced law since 1975.
A graduate of the University of Arizona Law School, he previously served
as an attorney with the U.S. Department of the Interior in Washington,
D.C., for ten years and now lives in Tucson, AZ, where he practices law.
He is an ardent defender of the Second Amendment, as well as of the
First Amendment.
Read more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_T._Hardy
The Mass Murder at Santa Monica College
By Clayton Cramer*
Clayton Cramer's Blog
June 9, 2013
http://claytonecramer.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-mass-murder-at-santa-monica-college.html
Police had contact with the gunman in 2006, but because he was a
juvenile then, authorities couldn't release further information, Santa
Monica Police Chief Jacqueline Seabrooks said.
A law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation told
CNN on Saturday that the gunman had suffered mental health issues. A few
years ago, he was hospitalized for treatment after allegedly talking
about harming someone, according to the official.
It's not clear whether the state government or his family committed
him for treatment or whether he committed himself. It's also unclear
under what circumstances he was released.
And yet California has had an assault weapon ban since 1989 (the year
the shooter was born) and on transfers of high-capacity magazines since
2000 (when the shooter was eleven years old). It has required all
firearms transfers to be done through a background check since 1991
(when the shooter was two) and it appears that the shooter had been
committed at some point -- which is one of the things the California
background check includes.
* Conservative. Idaho. Software engineer. Historian. Increasingly,
frustrated with how the greed of a small number of lawyers is making
life unreasonable for ordinary people.
So what the hell went on in Santa Monica, anyway? - bow shot - 06-10-2013
Here in NY the gubmint has taken swift and decisive action:
1) De-fund the mental health facilities
2) Prohibit the use of firearms by peaceable citizens
Result: Gubmint sponsored slaughter zones. Now only Zombies have guns.
So what the hell went on in Santa Monica, anyway? - Nukes - 06-10-2013
DSM-5, the latest psychiatric listing of official diagnoses, gives a clue to the problem with funding "mental health." Every opinion and every emotion that doesn't match government diktat is now psychopathologized.
Notice how even on this forum dissent from official conspiracy theories or outright lies (sometimes the lies are even under oath*) is met with reflexive epithets—"nut cases," "tin foil hats," and the rest of the ritual epithets and magic "diagnoses."
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/05/the-lying-liars-who-lie-about-psychiatry.html
*Rep. Wyden: "Does the NSA collect any type of information at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?" [emphasis original]
Gen. Clapper: "No."
So what the hell went on in Santa Monica, anyway? - montana - 06-10-2013
Repeat after me ----- everything is just peachy,------ everything is just peachy. Feeling better now? No , back to the psychiatrist you go for more indoctrination,---- oops I mean psychological therapy.
So what the hell went on in Santa Monica, anyway? - bow shot - 06-12-2013
Don't get me wrong.. I'm not at all a believer in the psycho-"sciences". I just find it a hilarious that even the libs are crying about how "we" need to "address" the "broken mental health system" because of all the kooks. And NY yanks the $ plug. But simultaneously, they blow a jillion bucks on gun "control".
So what the hell went on in Santa Monica, anyway? - Nukes - 06-12-2013
Bow Shot, I didn't imagine you had succumbed to psycho-babble. I only intended to offer a "Be careful what you wish for" warning.
Anyone lay odds that DSM-6 will have "gun owner disorder" that ensures every gun owner will have a convenient psychiatric diagnosis to disqualify them from gun ownership?
Too many RKBA supporters are mouthing off about re-funding "mental health" (as if) without carefully thinking through the consequences of funding/empowering the shrinks and those who psychopathologize their political opponents.
So what the hell went on in Santa Monica, anyway? - JASmith - 06-12-2013
Nukes Wrote:...Too many RKBA supporters are mouthing off about re-funding "mental health" (as if) without carefully thinking through the consequences of funding/empowering the shrinks and those who psychopathologize their political opponents.
WAY too true. Not enough of us think about these 'gotchas.'
Same thing for the consequences for a huge emphasis on the 2A without touching on the rest of the Bill of Rights. The entire document is what protects our liberties. Allowing everything but the 2A atrophy gives lots of back doors for implicit bans and eventual outright confiscation.
So what the hell went on in Santa Monica, anyway? - montana - 06-12-2013
To the point and absolutely right, smart fellows on this forum.
So what the hell went on in Santa Monica, anyway? - bow shot - 06-12-2013
"Too many RKBA supporters are mouthing off about re-funding "mental health" (as if) without carefully thinking through the consequences of funding/empowering the shrinks and those who psychopathologize their political opponents."
Aye...freaky scary, is it not?