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Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - Trooper - 03-02-2013
We have too many gun manufacturers who are in anti gun states (Illinois - Springfield, DS Arms, Masschusetts - Savage Arms, NY, Maryland, California). Shouldn't we pressure these companies to move to gun friendly states like Indiana, SC, NC, Texas and so forth?
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - cory - 03-02-2013
Trooper Wrote:We have too many gun manufacturers who are in anti gun states (Illinois - Springfield, DS Arms, Masschusetts - Savage Arms, NY, Maryland, California). Shouldn't we pressure these companies to move to gun friendly states like Indiana, SC, NC, Texas and so forth?
+1
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - MrDraco - 03-02-2013
The problem I have with boycotting certain manufacturers is I know some of them (Springfield and Savage for example) have commented that they want to relocate but it's too costly for them to do so.
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - Soylent Green - 03-02-2013
No.
We should not boycott them.
Encourage them to move? Yes. But I'm not willing to help them financially with the HUGE moving costs, are you?
Machinery costs a lot to move, and most employees WON'T move for a job and leave family behind. So now after moving, they must find and hire new people...not feasable.
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - sneaky one - 03-02-2013
Good call Soy Green, welcome in also.
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - Deer Hunter - 03-02-2013
We should not stoop to the tactics of our critics to financially harm a business or individual through no fault of their own who simply ended up in a State with a bunch of a$$holes for
Legislators. I to would encourage them to join the cause but to relocate a company like Savage would be phenomenonly expensive.
Yes I was pissed and distressed with Cheaper then dirts decision to halt sales of AR type guns and gears but theirs WAS a decision they made not their happenstance location.
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - ricsmall - 03-02-2013
I started to comment on this earlier, but refrained, just to see if others thought the same as I do. And I wholeheartedly agree with mr Draco and soylent green, not cost feasible. Of course, those states may impose special taxes, if possible, on gun mfrs., which may force them to move or into bankruptcy. Boycott them, no.
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - Allen - 03-02-2013
Heck, if anything favor the poor souls that have to live in the horrible states. These companies are well aware how horrible their states are so why would you want to punish them while they are dealing with all this BS. WHEN MD passes this BS they are trying to and companies like Midway USA refuse to ship here (like they did to NY) I am going to be EXTRA pissed.
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - babaganoush - 03-02-2013
Please don't mind my saying so, but if we start boycotting companies in the firearm industry that happen to be in now hostile states, it would be tantamount to eating our own young. I believe that nothing would please the anti-gunners more, than to see us turn on our own.
Just my .02
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - cory - 03-02-2013
While I don't like the idea of boycotting 2nd Amendment supporting companies, the fact is they're directly financing increasingly tyrannical governments. I don't know the exact numbers, but I can only assume losing the income tax from these companies and their employees would deliver a huge blow to their current state's budget. Not to mention the rise in unemployment that would directly effect the populations voting tendency, well normally.
Again I don't like seeing anyone losing their job, but at what point do we hold the population responsible for voting in the socialist party, standing by idly while unconstitutional policies are implemented, and allowing a tyrannical government to exist within our borders? Everyone one of us as individuals are responsible for what are country and state has become.
I don't want to see these companies go bankrupt. Boycotting is hopefully not the answer, but something has to be done, and these companies operating out of communist territory need to relocate. Thousands have given their lives in the name of liberty for this country, and thousands more stand by ready and willing too. The money argument will get little sympathy from me. Granted, relocating an entire company overnight isn't feasible for most, relocating in stages certainly is feasible at the very least. What better time to expand into constitutionally abiding and business friendly states than when their demand is at an all time high?
I'd like to applaud Magpul for being prepared to do so in the event Colorado passes their anti 2nd legislation.
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - shotgun_wedding - 03-02-2013
Why not keep buying from the companies, but boycott every other business in the state? (Yes, I know the state government ultimately gets their fingers on their tax dollars)
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - bwaites - 03-02-2013
2 issues here:
1) The gun companies are NOT the enemy. Those who are attempting to usurp our rights are. The gun companies have little choice in that beyond trying to help us defeat those people. Magpul is somewhat unique, in that they can make the move relatively easily in comparison.
2) We need to find a way to convince others to join in our cause, not be seen as radical "all or nothing" boosters.
I think we do need to encourage the companies to not sell anything to state governments that is not available to that states citizens. That makes a point who the really important people are, the citizens, not the employees of the citizens!
Lets make sure we focus our energy on the real culprits, not the people we need!
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - cory - 03-02-2013
bwaites Wrote:Magpul is somewhat unique, in that they can make the move relatively easily in comparison.
How exactly is that?
I agree we don't need to start attacking these companies. I have no plans to boycott any of these companies in the near future. However, in light of the recent events I would be willing to boycott any company who expanded inside of their current socialist states post any anti 2nd legislation in their state..
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - bwaites - 03-02-2013
Because they say they can. I'm assuming because their equipment is more mobile? They certainly don't have the equipment that the older firearms companies do, like huge lathes and forges, and hammer mills, etc.
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - El Wray - 03-02-2013
Simple. Pressure the legislators in these states, not the companies...
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - cory - 03-02-2013
It's obvious the population isn't going to step up and vote them out. With that being said, what better way to pressure them than a dramatic decrease in their tax revenue?
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - OLd Man - 03-02-2013
Nobody would stay in Illinois if they could get out. They can only get 59 cents for their house, if they can find a buyer, so they can't aford to leave. One tax payer leaves the state every minute now. Don't take it out on the poor chaps that have been left behind to turn the lights out. Interesting things may happen as the same states that are causing all the problems are going to be insolvent soon. What will be the ramifications of that?
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - Deer Hunter - 03-02-2013
OLd Man Wrote:Nobody would stay in Illinois if they could get out. They can only get 59 cents for their house, if they can find a buyer, so they can't aford to leave. One tax payer leaves the state every minute now. Don't take it out on the poor chaps that have been left behind to turn the lights out. Interesting things may happen as the same states that are causing all the problems are going to be insolvent soon. What will be the ramifications of that?
You nailed it OLdman. Ive often wondered why people dont leave, they cant!
Should we boycott gun makers in anti gun states? - oneshotkyle - 03-02-2013
gotta hit them in the pocket book to make any changes. any manufactor that continues to sit in there communist state and support them with there taxes isn't doing anything to help out the cause. these major gun makers need to step it up and start small moving out of the ban states, make it real and in person to there commy leader's. often they will recieve tax credits large enough to pay for the move to a free state. nothging is impossible not even for the biggest of them to move.