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Kalifornia Krazy gun kontrol - BjornF16 - 02-08-2013

From:http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/02/foghorn/list-of-proposed-california-gun-control-measures-500-round-max-no-grandfathering-no-detachable-mags-mandatory-license/


A press conference just wrapped up in California where the Democrats (who have an overwhelming majority in the state) unveiled their latest gun control agenda. And since the Democratic majority is so strong, these aren’t proposals — it’s a preview of things to come. According to one person who was watching the press conference, the following new restrictions on personal liberties will be coming to the most “liberal” state in the union . . .


Thanks to Reddit:

- Possession of hollow point bullets and similar assault bullets a felony.
- Must register and report ammo purchases. Only purchase max 500 rounds.
- 10 round magazine limit
- ALL magazines must be fixed to the gun (can not be removed without the use of a tool)
- 100% prohibition of all magazines greater than 10 rounds. All previous grandfathered magazines become illegal. Felony if you keep one.
- Changing definition of shotgun revolving cylinder — Basically only single shot shotguns will remain legal.
- Bullet Buttons will become illegal — All AR and AK style rifles that are currently equipped with them will be designated Assault Weapons. Felony to possess.
- All gun owners now must be licensed like drivers.
- All gun owners must carry gun liability insurance


Kalifornia Krazy gun kontrol - Allen - 02-08-2013

"Assault Bullets" wow. So a match HPBT is illegal. Brilliant, think of all the innocent children saved..............


Kalifornia Krazy gun kontrol - montana - 02-08-2013

They respect the second amendment but!!!!!!!! LRRP52 is right when he said a den of whores.


Kalifornia Krazy gun kontrol - LRRPF52 - 02-08-2013

The real sadness is that the registered voters in California (17.2 million, Aug 2012) equal the entire populations of Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, and Utah combined, and yet organized criminal enterprises allied with the political party machines have Gerrymandered the congressional districts, totally corrupted the schools, and run the propaganda so that these peoples' votes and voices don't count, whereas not one single county was picked up by Obama in this last election in Utah.

The only hope for many Californians is to re-district or divide the massive State, which would be one of the richest countries in the world if it were a country. Decades of marxists in the government there has ruined the socio-economic fabric of that State.


Kalifornia Krazy gun kontrol - carbontetrachloride - 02-08-2013

I believe it is beyond repair here. The takers outnumber the producers 2 to 1. I hope it holds together long enough to get me and my things outs of here.


Kalifornia Krazy gun kontrol - Nukes - 02-08-2013

Why I left. Let me count the ways.

As for Steinberg's half-baked automobile comparison, this vintage quote is still apropos:


Quote:...The automobile model of gun ownership

Advocates of increased gun restrictions have promoted the automobile model of gun ownership, however, the analogy is selectively and incompletely applied. It is routinely overlooked that no license or registration is needed to “own and operate” any kind of automobile on private property. No proof of “need” is required for automobile registration or drivers’ licensure. Once licensed and registered, automobiles may be driven on any public road and every state’s licenses are given “full faith and credit” by other states. There are no waiting periods, background checks, or age restrictions for the purchase of automobiles. It is only their use and misuse that is regulated.

Although the toll of motor vehicle tragedies is many times that of guns, no “arsenal permit” equivalent is asked of automobile collectors or motorcycle racing enthusiasts. Neither has anyone suggested that automobile manufacturers be sued when automobiles are misused by criminals, as they frequently are, by drunk and reckless drivers, in drive-by shootings, bank robberies, car bombs, and all manner of crime and terrorism. No one has suggested banning motor vehicles because they “might” be used illegally or are capable of exceeding the 55 mph speed limit, even though we “know” speed kills. Who needs a car capable of three times the national speed limit? “But cars have good uses” is the usual response. So too do guns have good uses, the protection of 2.5-million good Americans every year. (Kleck G and Gertz M. Armed resistance to crime: the prevalence and nature of self-defense with a gun. Journal of Criminal Law & Criminology. Summer 1995: 86. forthcoming)

Importantly, the proponents of the automobile model of gun ownership fail to note that controls appropriate to a privilege (driving) are inappropriate to a constitutional right (gun ownership and use)....



Kalifornia Krazy gun kontrol - Deer Hunter - 02-08-2013

So we cant secede? Well how about this, lets Kick Kalifornia, NYC, Chicago and any other Commie cities or States out of the Union afterall they are the ****ing problem not us.
Nobody seems to want to say it and I dont want it but the liklihood of Violence is 80-20 on the low end. These idiots have ordered billions of rounds for a reason and we are the reason. You can take that to the bank.


Kalifornia Krazy gun kontrol - juke81 - 02-08-2013

Help! I live in this state. Well, I better start donating more to the NRA.


Kalifornia Krazy gun kontrol - Deer Hunter - 02-09-2013

It may be to late Juke. Did you see how fast NYC happened? It was Midnight and all thru the house not a sound was heard except from the evil Politician DemonRats who forced an unjust UnConstitutional Bill and forced a illegal vote to criminalize a million law abiding NYC gun owners. Well you get the message.


Kalifornia Krazy gun kontrol - ricsmall - 02-09-2013

the bills in Ca. arent proposals, they will make it to legislation with all of the mealy mouthed idiots that run that state. best of luck to you.


Kalifornia Krazy gun kontrol - shotgun_wedding - 02-09-2013

Every time I think I want to live in La La land, something like this happens and I come to my senses.

I do wonder, however, if there won't be just a little pushback on these. Hard to say - I keep hoping - at least for the sake of my friends who are there. If it goes like NY though...


Kalifornia Krazy gun kontrol - Deer Hunter - 02-09-2013

I to wonder why there isnt more pushback but when you have law abiding citizens who own arms they try to observe the rules and laws. If you took a poll here you would see just how diverse we are. I bet we have military, ex military, attorneys, bankers, carpenters etc....right here in this forum but were coming to a point of put up or shut up.
Our Forefathers had nothing to lose and everything to gain, we've had an easy life (relatively speaking compared to the wild frontiers that our predeccessors had) but whats that saying? Freedom isnt free. The United States of America is at a crossroads and as my Daddy always use to say "If it is to be its up to me."


Kalifornia Krazy gun kontrol - montana - 02-09-2013

Smart Dad.