6.8 KLR Wrote:Thanks Alot you'all,
I have been getting sme great reloading info on this board, especially data using many of the new powders being used in this cartridge. I have been tring to find a good long range round for the AR-15 platform but nothing has really been suitable ,including the 6.8 SPC, for the type of hunting that I do here.
So far the .264 bullet with its higher B.C. and the Grendel case has proved to be Very accurate and at 2900 fps, chronographed, has been a Flat Shooter............Mike....

melensdad Wrote:I'm surprised you would even consider the 6.8SPC for any sort of long range shooting. It is a good round in the same way that the old Win 30-30 is a good round. But nobody should confuse it with a long range round.

6.8 KLR Wrote:Thanks for the great Info. Are you a Deer hunter ? If so what is the load you hunt with ? I am new to this cartridge and do not have any hunting experiance with it yet. This upcoming season will be my first with the 6.5......Last fall I missed a GIANT Buck with the 6.8, that deer was a little over 300 M away. Went back a week later and killed a lesser buck with my .25-06. Gonna hunt'em this fall with the 6.5......... Can't hardly stand the wait.....Season opens here the first Sat. in Oct........

melensdad Wrote:I'm surprised you took a shot at a deer at 300M with the 6.8SPC. That round drops below 1000 ft lbs of energy at only 225 yards with factory loads. The 6.5 Grendel maintains 1000 ft lbs of energy out to about 400 yards.

Quote:20 inch ARP 6.8, 110 Accubond 2810 fps, ammo from Wilson Combat. 330 yards 1000 ft/lbs

Brag Wrote:Ok, OK, slight correction

http://shopwilsoncombat.com/68-SPC-110-gr-Hornady-BTHP-2700-FPS-16-Barrel-20_Box/productinfo/A68-110-BTHP/

Not the 110 gr Accupoint, 110 Hornady BTHP. . . .

Quote:here is a cartridge designer who suggests that ethical hunting requires 1500 fl-lbs of energy AND at least 2500 fts of velocity: LINK => http://www.lazzeroni.com/ct_lrs.htm

melensdad Wrote:OK that is the "tactical" ammo that requires the newer generation chambers and slower barrel twist can is not safe for use in all 6.8 SPC rifles. But even that only lists 2700 fps in those rifles so chambered/barreled to handle that.

My experience with the 6.8 SPC is owning, and then being totally disappointed with the over-hyped/under performing round, leading to the sale of the upper to someone who bought into the false advertising.

The only way to get the 6.8 SPC to really perform is to load it up to pressures that flatten primers due to excess pressures. The bullets are about as aerodynamic as a 1970's Volvo sedan and while its an excellent short and modest range round, I stand by what I've illustrated several times, that is that beyond about 225 yards, with very rare exception, it simply does not retain enough energy for ethical hunting (at least 1000 ft-lbs of energy).

woohoo Wrote:You can load the 6.8 with 110gr bullets and get 2800fps out of a 16" barrel without flattening primers if you know the load data and use the right equipt.

Brag Wrote:My handloads with the 110AB in a 16 inch with AA2200 are going ~2740(new lb of AA2200 is slower) fps(summertime #s), I have no pressure signs, but stopped load dev. there, mainly due to the rifle shooting tiny groups there. In my 20 inch tube I'm at 2840 fps in the summertime heat with the AB. As I increase the powder charge, my fps is flattening out, another powder will be needed to go higher, so I'm waiting for more of the new high energy powders to come out.

Please let me know what powder your using for your 2800fps 110gr load. I suspect I could get 2800 fps from 110 HPBTs from Hornady, I've got higher #s from them before.

The 6.8 does have the 120 SST, I like the higher velocity of the 110 AB, and I like bonded bullets for hunting, both are good for the 6.8.

On the lbc front, my barrel is an 18 inch version, lately I'm thinking I'd like another one, light weight in the 20 to 21 inch range, I'd like another 100 fps with the 130 Scirrocos, and maybe more with the 123 Amax Hornady load. The 108 Scenars would scream faster as well.

This hunting season, the 6.8s and 264lbc will go hunting, I'll probably use the 264, and the kids will have the 6.8s, if I laze a deer at 226 yards, my kids will fill their tag.

As the above poster, the 6.8 didn't work out, maybe it was a spec I, using ammo for it, I'd be pissed too. I'm a late comer to the 6.8, and was lucky to get into the game after I found out about SSA ammo and ARP barrels. Also having a G and not a 6.8, no handicap there for hunting(just use a good expanding and penetrating bullet, this is more important then a ft/lb ceiling), and vice verse.

My reason to gravitate to the 264lbs, the Hornady 123 Amax load, it's not really cheap at $1.00 a round, but I think it's a great value, AND I like to shoot steel at long ranges, in the AR15 platform, it's a great fit. After seeing Bwild's work with CFE223 and the 130 gr bullets, finding a good load with a 130 gr Bonded bullet was just Icing on the cake for me!!!!!!!!!!! Big thanks Bwild and the 6.5 forum.

"Lazzeroni = NO KILL LIKE OVER-KILL!! "

I grew up with Weatherbys, first couple of years a 257, then 270, and 300 WBY for Elk, it was a given we destroyed both front quarters. After college, I started to shoot elk in the neck, Elk meat was too nice to waste

As a young hunter(buck fever, youthful exuberance, etc), if I saw a buck walking away from me, at my fathers displeasure, I would take the shot, and the Weatherby's always anchored them, lol American HP. I relate these stories to my Kids, they have less powerful rifles, but they have 20x the trigger time as I had as a kid. Our generation of Bullets is also nicer then 25 years ago.