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Javelina/123gr eldm - imaguy3 - 02-26-2023

Grendel got to eat yesterday. Called a herd of javelina in, this one stood broadside at 120yrds. Shooting 123gr eldm, unfortunately my windage turret (Vortex Viper PST II) got turned several mils off inadvertently at some point and I gut shot him. I looked at the windage after we recovered him and saw it turned off. :mad:

That being said there was a roughly 1/2" entry hole with a huge exit hole with intestines hanging out both. Still died quick.


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Javelina/123gr eldm - sundowner - 02-26-2023

Congrats on the javelina .

Javelina/123gr eldm - 603 Country - 02-26-2023

Ya’ll gonna eat it? My neighbor says he can cook it to his satisfaction. Says he ate them when he lived in Bolivia, and the guy is a great cook. Don’t know if reaches my personal level of satisfaction though.

Javelina/123gr eldm - tdbru - 02-26-2023

best I ever learned to cook them is make sure ALL the fat is off the meat. the fat is quite bitter. then boil the meat 3x draining off the water each time. that helps get rid of all the fat. then just stir fry it and add some bbq sause for pulled pork style sandwiches.

congrats on the Javi. they are Very exciting to handgun hunt since one has to get close, well I do anyway. stay down wind, be quiet, and you can get within handgun distance (~40 yards or less).

after hunting them with HG, rifles are quite anti climatic. but it's all fun.

-tdbru

Javelina/123gr eldm - EastTNHunter - 02-27-2023

Nice. Congrats. I’m gonna try that some day

Javelina/123gr eldm - kmon - 02-27-2023

I have had some that was quite good and some that the plate went to the dog who thought it was ok.

Congrats on the Javi

What you experienced is why I will not hunt with a non locking turret and almost always hunt with capped ones.

Javelina/123gr eldm - Old Bob - 02-27-2023

A friend was on a bow hunt for mule deer when he was treed by a pack of javalinas. He said they charged him with their jaws snapping. Taking no chances he climbed up the nearest tree. He then put an arrow through one ... we roasted it whole over some mesquite on a spit. Yum!

Javelina/123gr eldm - imaguy3 - 02-27-2023

tdbru Wrote:best I ever learned to cook them is make sure ALL the fat is off the meat. the fat is quite bitter. then boil the meat 3x draining off the water each time. that helps get rid of all the fat. then just stir fry it and add some bbq sause for pulled pork style sandwiches.

congrats on the Javi. they are Very exciting to handgun hunt since one has to get close, well I do anyway. stay down wind, be quiet, and you can get within handgun distance (~40 yards or less).

after hunting them with HG, rifles are quite anti climatic. but it's all fun.

-tdbru

Never had an issue with bitter fat on mine. I get them turned into chorizo, italian sausage, and brats... Taste better than any of that meat that's store bought.


I've been hunting them this way for the last few years. Doesn't matter the weapon when you get them charging and running in close it's still a thrill.

This year I had a good shot before he got close so I took it, but the last 3 years they've all be inside of 10 yards. One year I had a coyote pop at 200 yards, smoked him, then turned around to have the javelina 5 yards behind me whoofing and being mean. Swung on him and dropped him too. Lots of nothing then all of a sudden instant action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpvH6G5xhX0

Javelina/123gr eldm - imaguy3 - 02-27-2023

kmon Wrote:I have had some that was quite good and some that the plate went to the dog who thought it was ok.

Congrats on the Javi

What you experienced is why I will not hunt with a non locking turret and almost always hunt with capped ones.

Yeah, it's my first time experiencing it in all the years, however it's timing was terrible. Unfortunately the scopes that do interest me with capped/locking windage are prohibitively expensive for this gun at the moment. For example the only scope I'm aware of now with a capped windage, that interests me for this gun, is the Vortex Razor LHT. Anything else that interests me is more expensive than that :-(

Javelina/123gr eldm - Stinky Coyote - 02-27-2023

Cool Grendel Kill. And yeah on them range scopes, hunting is a kiss principle thing, everything works at the range but our old friend Murphy will show up in the field when we try and take that gear hunting. Many are over scoped and over cartridged lol, sounds like you're just a little over scoped. Wink

Javelina/123gr eldm - imaguy3 - 02-27-2023

Stinky Coyote Wrote:Cool Grendel Kill. And yeah on them range scopes, hunting is a kiss principle thing, everything works at the range but our old friend Murphy will show up in the field when we try and take that gear hunting. Many are over scoped and over cartridged lol, sounds like you're just a little over scoped. Wink

What scope you do you recommend that tracks reliably for dialing elevation, target shooting this out to 700 and hunting to 500?

I really like the 3-15 or 3-18 power range and prefer FFP. This is what I have now. If I could stay 30mm to avoid buying a new mount that's a plus.

https://vortexoptics.com/vortex-viper-pst-gen-2-3-15x44-ffp-riflescope+reticle-EBR-7C~MRAD

Javelina/123gr eldm - Stinky Coyote - 02-28-2023

imaguy3 Wrote:What scope you do you recommend that tracks reliably for dialing elevation, target shooting this out to 700 and hunting to 500?

I really like the 3-15 or 3-18 power range and prefer FFP. This is what I have now. If I could stay 30mm to avoid buying a new mount that's a plus.

https://vortexoptics.com/vortex-viper-pst-gen-2-3-15x44-ffp-riflescope+reticle-EBR-7C~MRAD

you'll have to figure it out if trying to do 2-3 jobs with one scope and what is most important to you, if hitting critters in the guts or missing is least important then carry on, preferably you have one tool for each job, hunting and target shooting to 700 yards are more than different enough to have two different tools

ie; even the bulk of prc shooters hunting limits are 600 yards, and those in the scene will admit that on game most proficiency starts to die off around 450 yards and the moderate few can still kill reliably to 600 but its very very few who can reliably kill past 600 so they do the same thing, take their target rigs hunting but still kill within ranges a 3-9x40 scope regular 7 lb hunting rifle will kill with simple elevation/wind solutions, be a turret or reticle, and most won't shoot at game past 20" of wind either, even if they don't know that limit in inches, their mils or moa holds etc. will equate to that, there are natural limits that keep hunting a very different beast, so you can either set up for that...or adapt the range gear to it best you can but it will catch you out, just as you learned very quickly

so my recommendation is get your list of limits for 'hunting' written down, real, practical, then either set your rig up to that, or get a second rifle set up for hunting, when you drag way too much noise out there it will catch you out, and Murphy has a tendency to do it on an animal of a lifetime, the more simple, bombproof you can set up for within your practical hunting limits the less likely you'll have to meet Murphy out there

hearing most ffp scopes don't have reticles that lend well to hunting as too fine on lower mags, and guys set up with 100 yard zeros instead of mpbr, it's quite amazing really how we will step away from k.i.s.s. and most effective gear for the latest trend in shooting sports, it's a learning curve, not trying to tell you what to do but rather just think it through, all the info is available, those 450-600 yard TOF's are half to 3/4 seconds, the archery hunters have limits that fall in those same TOF's 50-70 yards btw, so there are natural limits, and 1/4 moa does nothing for you afield, 1.5 moa will get you to those distances as most can't extract any better from actual field shooting on game, and wind well..know that our brains are wired visually and spatially, so typically after the first wind hold on a reticle .3 mil or whatever...if you miss poa then you tend to ignore the reticle from that point on and brain takes over and almost corrects automatically...why not start out that way? I tried that but went back to plain reticle and hold inches, that won't be the ticket for prs, but it sure is for shtf hunting as you revert to a spatial/visual on target reference hold anyway, you don't get to 'measure' with the reticle your miss on game, targets you bet, but targets don't start leaving when the lead flies, do what makes you a better shooter but there is a way better way to set up for 'hunting', most guys who play in the long target world should have two different rifles, some do, some are adamant these differences and you'll have a guy with a nice custom 303 single he's deadly with to 400 for hunting but competes with all sorts of long bomber gear in f-class, prs or whatever, not enough people are talking about this Wink

we have little ruger ranch grendel with trijicon accupoint 3-9x40 the kids shoot well, Kenton spun up a speed dial turret to match middle of our conditions, kids and I have dialled up deer at 300, 355 and 420 no problem, dropped them all, return it back to zero and put the dust cap back on, windage you don't adjust ever, dust cap always stays on, tough to mess that system up, I just build another with a 6x36 fixed leupold with a cds-zl turret, again, tough to mess that up, I would use a mil-dot trijicon if return to zero was an issue etc. as there are enough holds to get me out past 500 easy and gapping isn't hard, did that with archery fixed pin sights a long time, also shot a leupold lr-duplex well to about 575 yards also, all real world hunting set ups, and before the cds-zl type turrets came along I ran a standard 7/8" target knob with dust cap for my leupold scopes, I added them to everything through the custom shop, then Kenton speed dial turrets to match what I wanted, shot very accurately out to 930 yards in testing, called out by buddy at 701 and nailed the rock dead center while he spined it with his F-class 300wm with 28" barrel and easily 10 lbs etc. I shot a factory tikka t3 lite .270 with fusion ammo and leupold 3-9x33 ultralight with that 7/8" target turret, you range, dial, hold your wind and shoot, very quickly, that is hunting, leave the computers at home for hunting, you can it all set up before the season starts so you can focus on hunting and not the inappropriate gear and methods you may have over trained on before hand when you could have been training on coyotes all year instead as you'll learn very quickly hunting coyotes what you can and can't do on deer etc. and what your distance limits really are, while guys overtrained the wrong stuff all winter, I was hunting coyotes all winter, longest is 620, don't talk to many who have one over 400 let alone 500, so hopefully food for though, your shot was 120 yards, that windage error would have cost you a clean miss at 320, and if I bought a leupold mk4 or whatever that had a windage turret...I would send that back to custom shot to have it replaced to low profile capped, but I only care about hunting, range work is simply to set my rifles up for hunting, then I hunt Wink