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Which Optic - ARMYEOD - 01-22-2023
Building a multi-purpose semi-auto using a 16 inch Grendel Hunter upper and BCM lower.
As I said, multi-purpose; coyotes, defense, hunting.
Choices of optics are:
Leupold VX5 HD 3-15 with Impact 29 reticle
Trijicon TA-11 ACOG (.308 Win reticle)
Steiner 1-4 LPVO
I am leaning toward the Leupold for the MOA reticle for easy holdovers
Which Optic - bmash - 01-23-2023
I dont have any of those, but for me deer hunting I like the higher magnification so you can tell small spike from doe also if any longer shots I prefer a higher power
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For self defense the other two are better, but 3 power would be ok. So Leupold if it were me.
Which Optic - Stugotz - 01-23-2023
Give those 3 choices and your intent of use, I would go with the Steiner.
Which Optic - ARMYEOD - 01-24-2023
I forgot another choice; a Leupold Freedom 4-12 with CDS. I am leaning that way.
Which Optic - Rivercityjeff - 01-24-2023
ARMYEOD Wrote:I forgot another choice; a Leupold Freedom 4-12 with CDS. I am leaning that way.
ArmyEOD, Leupold has a great program for AD, Veteran's, and retirees! It's about 28% off retail. https://www.leupold.com/vip-programs-info
Which Optic - 603 Country - 01-25-2023
If you get one of the Leupold scopes, you want to get the Firedot. Makes it easy to see the center of the crosshairs on a black hog in dim light. I have a VX5 3-15 CDS Firedot on my 260 and on the grandsons Grendel. On my Grendel, prior to the night vision scope on there now, I had an Athlon Midas 2.5-15 HMR with the Illuminated reticle. A very good scope at a reasonable price.
Which Optic - Bigs28 - 01-25-2023
All 3 completely different. Personally i would not get the trijicon. Great optic but other options for the cost. So between the other two do you want 1-4 or 3-15?
Which Optic - gmar - 01-26-2023
ARMYEOD Wrote:Building a multi-purpose semi-auto using a 16 inch Grendel Hunter upper and BCM lower.
As I said, multi-purpose; coyotes, defense, hunting.
Choices of optics are:
Leupold VX5 HD 3-15 with Impact 29 reticle
Trijicon TA-11 ACOG (.308 Win reticle)
Steiner 1-4 LPVO
I am leaning toward the Leupold for the MOA reticle for easy holdovers
Whats your budget?
Which Optic - ARMYEOD - 01-26-2023
I already own all the optics I just listed.
But I just found a really nice USO TS-12X FFP, so that is now the optic.
Which Optic - Stinky Coyote - 07-26-2023
well sell it, look at trijicon 3-9x40 accupoint green mil-dot duplex, 5 mil worth of holdovers (4 dots and where the post thickens up, and 200 yard zero (5.3" mpbr to 235 yards) gets you to about 620 yards depending on your elevation, it only weighs 13.4 oz, 3x is plenty fast enough for called coyotes at close range, I've killed them at 30 yards running with 4x bottom end no sweat and that's not even with the added bonus of that illuminated dot! and that dot has become one of my favourite features for hunting now, it's so intuitive in actual hunting situations on game I won't live without it
so I run 16.1" barrel and 200 yard zero with this scope, my kids have killed deer at 300 and 355 and I took one at 420
zero = 200
1st dot = 300
2nd dot = 390
3rd dot = 475
4th dot = 550
post thicken = 620
with our longer shots on deer we actually dialled them up however, the mil-dot is more for redundancy, Kenton speed dial turret gets us to a little over 500 yards and these scopes track and return to zero like a champ, high quality glass another level above any of my typical vx3 1" tube leupold stuff which I was forever using
I have seen a few clever AR guys figure this out too, even though it doesn't 'look' like a typical AR optic...if you use logic alone and for tasks at hand it's about as versatile as you can get.
We only do coyotes/big game combined. With some gong time for practice. The dot covers about 4-5" of my 15" gong at 425 yards. As I said, easy work on a 420 yard whitetail doe. She dropped right where she stood. The beauty of dialling is you get to use that beautiful illuminate dot...which is battery free btw.
If you're a hunter and that is your primary focus, this has to make anyones top 3 list as the ultimate versatile 0-600 yard optic period. The vx5's are ginormous tanks, as a pure hunter I have a hard time considering optics over 1lb and won't do it period. I've shot well to 930 yards with sub 1 lb optics.
anything works well for targets etc. but you'll meet Murphy while hunting if you take the wrong gear and methods afield that contradict KISS principle and your own internal programming, likely on an animal of a lifetime, most of the time most guys can make the target crap work for hunting...that's not the times it will catch you out, it's when it really counts when you meet Murphy
Hope that helps.
Which Optic - lazyengineer - 07-27-2023
Stugotz Wrote:Give those 3 choices and your intent of use, I would go with the Steiner.
That would be my choice. IMHO, people tend to over-glass. A 16" rifle is not a 1000 yard gun. 4X will do more than people give it credit for.