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New to Reloading - Die Set Question - USAF Retired - 07-01-2022

I just received my Rock Chucker Supreme Master set. Doing all of the reading I can and shopping for a few things at a time. Planning on reloading for hunting. Got myself 100 Nosler Partitions in 125 grain to get started. Question on dies. Trying to stay with RCBS equipment and they are out of Full Length die set. Are there any other die sets someone could recommend? I am reloading for an AR and Howa mini-action. Only plan to reload used brass I shoot from the specific rifles to lessen the chance of having to resize, i.e. only reload brass for the HOWA that was shot from the HOWA. Thanks.

Patrick


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - Klem - 07-01-2022

G'Day USAF,

Forster and Redding are both reputable brands.

You will have to resize for both guns, every time, to at least grip the next bullet. Two different types of action require two different types of sizing to maximise accuracy and reliability. Full-length for the AR with a shoulder bump of .003", and neck-sizing for the bolt gun with no bump (unless it's a sticky bolt). Use dedicated cases for each gun; i.e. keep the brass separate.

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New to Reloading - Die Set Question - grayfox - 07-01-2022

Those are good ones, I use the Hornady dies, a 2-die set ("custom", I believe). They are good IMO for anyone who wants to be accurate but is not necessarily a competition shooter. For competition you probably ought to go for top shelf everything... but the Hornady's have served me well over the years. The shell holder is #6 for the Grendel and 6 Arc.

I use mostly rcbs, but do have a couple hornady's and a couple forster dies, but mostly rcbs.


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - Happy2Shoot - 07-01-2022

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1011278027?pid=480090
RCBS 2-Die Set 6.5 Grendel

I like Hornady seating dies because of their bullet alignment sleeve.


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - grayfox - 07-01-2022

ps, when I get shell holders I always get 2, one goes into the hand primer and one for my rock chucker.


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - Remington Jim - 07-01-2022

I use Redding dIE sets MOSTLY But also RCBS and HORNADY and FORESTER sets with no problems ! Smile

And as Klem states keep your brass separate to the rifle it is shot if you can !


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - 603 Country - 07-01-2022

I use Redding dies and follow up the loading with the Lee Factory Crimp Die.


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - Mesa1978 - 07-01-2022

Forster work well for me in Grendel.


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - Harpoon1 - 07-01-2022

Don’t discount the 100 grain “Partitions”! They may even be a better fit for Grendel than the 125’s, with its lower velocities. They’re every bit as tough as the 125’s, and you get the added benefit of higher velocity at impact and a flatter trajectory. In fact, the 100’s would be my first choice over the 125’s. YMMV. Big Grin


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - Harpoon1 - 07-01-2022

If your budget allows, then maybe converting to the Hornady “Lock-n-Load” bushing system and using 2 separate dies, could speed things up and greatly simplify the resizing between the two guns. 1 die is setup and dedicated to the AR, the other to the bolt gun. Done. That would be my preference if possible but, many of my friends and family call me “lazy”! Cool


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - USAF Retired - 07-01-2022

Thanks Klem. Keeping the AR and bolt brass separated was something I had read to ensure less resizing issues. I have a lot to learn and expect to have more questions when I get started. Thanks.


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - USAF Retired - 07-01-2022

Thanks grayfox, I ordered a set of Hornady dies from MidSouth last night after I read they should be fine in the RCBS.


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - USAF Retired - 07-01-2022

Harpoon1 Wrote:Don’t discount the 100 grain “Partitions”! They may even be a better fit for Grendel than the 125’s, with its lower velocities. They’re every bit as tough as the 125’s, and you get the added benefit of higher velocity at impact and a flatter trajectory. In fact, the 100’s would be my first choice over the 125’s. YMMV. Big Grin

I was looking for the less grain Partitions. Was hoping for some 100 grain, but they are hard to find. Felt lucky to find the 125s. I can use them for my Creedmoor if I can find some 100 grains.


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - USAF Retired - 07-01-2022

Happy2Shoot Wrote:https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1011278027?pid=480090
RCBS 2-Die Set 6.5 Grendel

I like Hornady seating dies because of their bullet alignment sleeve.

I got a set of Hornady dies last night. Thanks.


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - USAF Retired - 07-01-2022

Harpoon1 Wrote:If your budget allows, then maybe converting to the Hornady “Lock-n-Load” bushing system and using 2 separate dies, could speed things up and greatly simplify resizing between the two guns. 1 die is setup and dedicated to the AR, the other to the bolt gun. Done. That would be my preference if possible but, many of my friends and family call me “lazy”! Cool

I think I watched a video on this. That sounds like a great idea. Being new, not sure what all to get. So, the bushing system and a separate pair of dies? I also have more money than time, so easier is better.


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - USAF Retired - 07-01-2022

Found some 95 grain VMAX Hornady bullets. Need to look up some load data on them.


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - USAF Retired - 07-01-2022

Was able to get a single box of 100 grain Partitions from Ally Munitions. All they had available.


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - Harpoon1 - 07-01-2022

Harpoon1 Wrote:If your budget allows, then maybe converting to the Hornady “Lock-n-Load” bushing system and using 2 separate dies, could speed things up and greatly simplify the resizing between the two guns. 1 die is setup and dedicated to the AR, the other to the bolt gun. Done. That would be my preference if possible but, many of my friends and family call me “lazy”! Cool

USAF Retired Wrote:I was looking for the less grain Partitions. Was hoping for some 100 grain, but they are hard to find. Felt lucky to find the 125s. I can use them for my Creedmoor if I can find some 100 grains.

Agree, they are hard to find! Glad to see we’re on the same page! I think your spot on using them in Creedmoor, if necessary!


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - USAF Retired - 07-01-2022

USAF Retired Wrote:I think I watched a video on this. That sounds like a great idea. Being new, not sure what all to get. So, the bushing system and a separate pair of dies? I also have more money than time, so easier is better.

Ordered. Thanks for the advice.


New to Reloading - Die Set Question - Klem - 07-01-2022

USAF Retired Wrote:Thanks Klem. Keeping the AR and bolt brass separated was something I had read to ensure less resizing issues. I have a lot to learn and expect to have more questions when I get started. Thanks.

USAF,

Two separate batches of brass makes things easier if you are going to neck-size for the bolt gun, and full-size for the AR. This means you need two sizing dies, which then means you do not need a bushing system - a single normal shell holder will do just fine. Set the locking ring of each die to match the gun its going to be shot out of and you're good-to-go.

Truth be known, you can full-size to fit both guns using one die only and not care about keeping separate batches of cases. Depending on your definition of accuracy and whether the guns are up to realizing it, and how long you want the cases to last you might be perfectly OK with this.

Up to you.