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Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - Zeneffect - 04-09-2022

Loaded up 10x of 29.5, 29.8 and 30.1gr of LVR to push the 123gr eldm pill at unknown speeds. Will be hitting range tomorrow morning and will post results but what is your best guess at velocity?

Here is the setup to guess

123gr eldm, 30.1gr LVR
CcI 41 primer
Lapua brass, fired and annealed after resize
Light crimp
28" barrel

Closest to actual gets a solid golf clap. Measurement will be from magnetospeed


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - mv1arms - 04-09-2022

2521


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - Zeneffect - 04-09-2022

I can tell you 2521 was exceeded with 28.5gr of lvr.


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - Kosh65 - 04-09-2022

Avg. 10 shot string 2608 fps


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - VASCAR2 - 04-09-2022

I got these velocities using a Magnettospeed chronograph on a 70 degree day with CFE223 which is very similar to LeverRevolution.


Hand Load 123 Grain Nosler CC, 31.0 grains CFE223, CCI 450

16" 2449

18" 2471

20" 2526

24" 2619

I’d estimate 2615 FPS from a 28” barrel.


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - daved20319 - 04-10-2022

Based on Vascar's info and my experience with my 28" barreled Creedmoor, I'd say more like 2700 FPS. That "extra" barrel length makes a much bigger difference than I expected, pretty much all the loads I've done in my Creedmoor run ~100 FPS faster than book data. Later.

Dave


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - Zeneffect - 04-10-2022

Wind yesterday was insane so didn't go. Went today and forgot the magnetospeed so I didn't shoot this ammo.

Next Friday if weather holds up.


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - mv1arms - 04-11-2022

Is this a bolt gun? If so I want a do-over.


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - myrifle - 04-11-2022

28 inch barrel
Cfe223
Ar15 action

Your going to be at 2620 +- 5 fps.


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - jasper2408 - 04-11-2022

Wanna see how close my QL is so gonna guess between 2655-2673fps.


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - LRRPF52 - 04-12-2022

30.1gr LVR under 123gr ELD-M will be somewhere around 2553fps from the 28”, and is a light load.

Here’s my data from a 22” barrel under 123gr SST with LEVERevolution:

2.250” COL
Rem 7 1/2 SRP
LEVERevolution
Federal brass 1x fired 1.208” headspace
60 deg F temp

29.8 2453fps
30.1 2465
30.4 2499
30.7 2517
31.0 2534
31.3 2596
31.6 2608
31.9 2605
32.2 2658

Had that been a 28”, the velocities would have been much higher.

31.6 LVR under a 123gr from a 28” pipe should be around/over 2700fps.


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - StoneHendge - 04-12-2022

What temperature will you be shooting at?


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - Zeneffect - 04-12-2022

65-75f

Just for reference 28.5gr of lvr averaged 2522 over a 25 shot string with this 28" at 70f


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - Smtimelevi - 04-12-2022

That a bit less than what most expected. I’m sure you can get more out of it. Still on the lighter side of charge weight


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - LRRPF52 - 04-12-2022

Zeneffect Wrote:65-75f

Just for reference 28.5gr of lvr averaged 2522 over a 25 shot string with this 28" at 70f

At 30.1gr, you’ll be in the 2650fps region.

31.6 will put you into 2750fps territory.

You got the extended length gas system, right?


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - Zeneffect - 04-12-2022

Yes sir and no adjustable gas block because it wouldn't fit without touching the handguard. I'll switch to the gas key adjustable one per your recommendation to others if it's warranted but initial testing says it's not. I can play with buffer weights and springs already if anything seems off so will try that first if anything is seen once I start pushing appropriate charge weights. I'm ramping up, not going full blast out of the gate.


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - StoneHendge - 04-13-2022

2649


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - Zeneffect - 04-16-2022

Average was 2600, 50F ammo temp.

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I will say... need all of the gas with a +2. Even switched to a lighter spring (the white spring for the jp nerds) at the range to get bolt to lock back reliably.

I have tested up to 31.4 and reached 2691fps average. I believe there is another .5gr or so left in it to test out before i feel things start getting iffy. Only about 60 rounds down the pipe so it may pick up a little speed with wear.


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - StoneHendge - 04-17-2022

If you had said the temp was going to be 50°, I would have said 2600.Wink


Best guess 123gr ELDM - 30.1gr LVR - Zeneffect - 04-17-2022

Can't predict the weather sorry. Waiting on brass to dry then loading up to about 31.8

Any new guesses? Temps will be between 45 and 60f (9am to noon) according to the internets. Need to start playing with the norma grx 130gr so ill have other loads going at same time. If can get these 123s to 2750 with good accuracy and sd at 80f, I'm right in the target zone I want to be.