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6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - Glenn54 - 01-18-2022
I don't have a lot of 6.5 Grendel ammo. It is not getting that much easier to find and the price is more than I'm willing to pay. I decided not to get into the reloading business. Are any of you guys getting rid of your 6.5 Grendel rifles or uppers? Do you think ammo prices will come down? I have a 223/5.56 AR 15 and that ammo is much more reasonable. Just curious what you guys are doing.
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - Oryx - 01-19-2022
Reloading.
Just find someone who reloads and for a mild investment of dies and components (assuming you can find primers) you can still come out ahead. Almost any reloader Ive ever know would be willing to help out.
Better yet ... find a friend that already reloads 6.5 Grendel!
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - Jake TN - 01-19-2022
Glenn54 Wrote:I don't have a lot of 6.5 Grendel ammo. It is not getting that much easier to find and the price is more than I'm willing to pay. I decided not to get into the reloading business. Are any of you guys getting rid of your 6.5 Grendel rifles or uppers? Do you think ammo prices will come down? I have a 223/5.56 AR 15 and that ammo is much more reasonable. Just curious what you guys are doing.
Unfortunately, I know many guys that have stopped recreational shooting. They have a stash for shit hit the fan and hunting. They would rather find another hobby to invest their time into. I understand their frustrations.
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - BowChamp - 01-19-2022
I understand your frustration with factory ammo prices. Reloading is a very good path to take.
There"s no way I would consider getting rid of my rifles!!!
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - biodsl - 01-19-2022
I haven't bought factory Grendel ammo in years. Reloading has allowed me to avoid some of the skyrocketing costs of the last couple of years. I've enjoyed learning about reloading and feel it's complemented my shooting hobby. I've also taken to doing a lot more with .22LR to further stretch my dollars.
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - LR1955 - 01-19-2022
Glenn54 Wrote:I don't have a lot of 6.5 Grendel ammo. It is not getting that much easier to find and the price is more than I'm willing to pay. I decided not to get into the reloading business. Are any of you guys getting rid of your 6.5 Grendel rifles or uppers? Do you think ammo prices will come down? I have a 223/5.56 AR 15 and that ammo is much more reasonable. Just curious what you guys are doing.
Glenn:
Got to say that the only people who can afford not to reload are ones who are very wealthy or those professional shooters who are being sponsored by an ammo maker.
If you aren't willing to pay what I think are monstrously inflated prices for Grendel ammo, you will either start reloading or stop shooting the Grendel.
There are some guys here who don't reload and I bet they don't shoot much either. So it is up to you. If you shoot a hundred or two hundred rounds a year, buy the ammo. More than that and it is probably more economical to load it. Providing you can find primers.
LR-55
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - Stugotz - 01-19-2022
Reloading for someone else has always been a concern of mine. You could do everything right with a safe load just to have a problem where the shooter say somehow gets something lodged in the barrel and have a major mishap. I have offered to supervise (and lend advice) to a friend using my equipment allowing them to roll their own ammo. There are liability issues involved here in my view.
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - Stugotz - 01-19-2022
Here is a perspective to consider before you start reloading for someone else:
"Reloading for someone else makes you an ammunition manufacturer under Federal and perhaps State law. You could be charged for manufacturing ammo without a license by both jurisdictions. Your best friend may not be your best friend after he loses an eye because his gun exploded after shooting one of your reloads. The reason for his gun exploding may not have anything to do with your reloads but you would be put in a costly position to prove that.
Reloading for someone else has too many repercussions AFAIC."
(I read this a while back on another forum a while back.)
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - EastTNHunter - 01-19-2022
Ive been able to find Hornady Black 6.5G ELDM ammo locally within the past couple of months for under $30/box. Thats more expensive than cheap import or blasting ammo in 5.56 or 7.62x39, but its better quality ammo as well.
Thankfully I reload and the cost is nowhere near $1.50/round, but Id have to consider the quality vs quantity in the above scenario if I was reliant upon factory ammo. Id rather shoot quality stuff instead of just blasting, but if I was just blasting then Id probably just stick with 5.56 or 7.62x39
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - GREYBUFF - 01-19-2022
Have to agree w/STUGOTZ, I don't reload for anyone but myself and family. Just like I won't weld on anyone else vehicles (even though i've certified). Lawyers are NOT your friend in any sense of the word. Been thru that one too.
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - outbreaker - 01-19-2022
Stugotz Wrote:Here is a perspective to consider before you start reloading for someone else:
"Reloading for someone else makes you an ammunition manufacturer under Federal and perhaps State law. You could be charged for manufacturing ammo without a license by both jurisdictions. Your best friend may not be your best friend after he loses an eye because his gun exploded after shooting one of your reloads. The reason for his gun exploding may not have anything to do with your reloads but you would be put in a costly position to prove that.
Reloading for someone else has too many repercussions AFAIC."
(I read this a while back on another forum a while back.)
That is how Ruby Ridge started. Randy Weaver doing a favor for a friend who turned him into the ATF.
And we all know it ended with his entire family being murdered.
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - Klem - 01-19-2022
Glen,
Why would you get rid of your Grendel unless you think this pandemic situation is never going to end?
I reload so have a lot more flexibility. I might not have my favorite loads all the time but it has forced me to try other things and that has been interesting and fun.
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - Glenn54 - 01-20-2022
I may hold onto it if it looks like the prices will come down and the availability is better. It's definitely hard to predict this dang pandemic situation. I really like the rifle and the caliber. I have a 223/556 LaRue so I guess I can shoot it and leave the Grendel in the closet till this blows over, regardless of when.
Klem Wrote:Glen,
Why would you get rid of your Grendel unless you think this pandemic situation is never going to end?
I reload so have a lot more flexibility. I might not have my favorite loads all the time but it has forced me to try other things and that has been interesting and fun.
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - TedBrewer5 - 01-20-2022
Mile high shooting.com has hornady black in stock for $25.49. Max 10. Good price for these times
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - lazyengineer - 01-20-2022
Unfortuantely this situation is not likely to drastically change very much any time soon. As to reloading, OP noted that's not his interest, which I understand. When one could get Wolf Steel for $0.27/shot for plinking, and good hunting ammo for $1, that was a credible option. Today, not so good. Tomorrow, even worse, since Wolf Steel will be gone in 2 years.
As to reloading, just a technical correction - it is not ATF regulated to reload for personal use. Loading a few extra rounds to give to a friend, is still going to be considered personal use, so long as no money is changing hands. In general it's when you start selling reloads, that one requires a Class 6 FFL. That's how the Vegas Shooter guy got in trouble, is he sold non-FFL licensed ammo commerciallly to bump-stock-Trump-hater. Even going so far as doing so as a business "Specialized Military Ammunition", but without ever getting the license. To be honest, he's probably lucky he only got 13 months for that, considering how flagerantly he was violating ATF doing all this without getting a Class 6.
as to path forward to OP, really it will come down to a philosophy of usage. If the 6.5 Grendel rifle is intended as a fun target and general purpose gun, that can also be used as hunting, then he's in for a frustrating future. However, if the goal here is a high performance applied firearm for hunting usage, where the semi-auto high capacity capability is valued, in the goal of focused hunting usage, it's really not that big of a deal. Most deer hunters, who just deer hunt, will go through a 20 round box of ammo every 5 years. And yet, their chosen rifle feeds the family well, for those 5 years. Grendel absolutely is a viable role, and if I were to go hunting in a magazine restricted location and anticpate engaging my deer with 1, at most 2, shots, a 6.5 Grendel AR15 would still be my preferred choice over a 30-30, or .308 bolt action, even if I only plan on shooting 2 of the 17 rounds in the gun. In that setting, for the most part, who cares if each shot was $3 vs $0.85?
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - Mark611 - 01-20-2022
If? you plan to reload? you can find primers at Brownell's but you have to stay on your game and look for them often, I have picked up 10K small rifle primers from them over the past 3mons, CCI #41's and some 400's I have also been lucky enough to find a local place that has been getting RAM Shot TAC and AA 2520 powder @ around $32 dollars a pound, I have been able to pick up 24lbs of powder from them 20#'s of TAC, They will not ship, so don't ask, I already Had a good stock of bullets and new Hornady brass, but if you look around you can find what you need!
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - Stugotz - 01-20-2022
Bruno's S has BR small rifle primers:
https://www.brunoshooters.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=powder&CatListingOffset=0&Offset=0&Per_Page=12&Sort_By=disp_order
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - Glenn54 - 01-21-2022
Thanks lazyengineer. Great review of the situation. Why will Wolf be gone in 2 years?
lazyengineer Wrote:Unfortuantely this situation is not likely to drastically change very much any time soon. As to reloading, OP noted that's not his interest, which I understand. When one could get Wolf Steel for $0.27/shot for plinking, and good hunting ammo for $1, that was a credible option. Today, not so good. Tomorrow, even worse, since Wolf Steel will be gone in 2 years.
As to reloading, just a technical correction - it is not ATF regulated to reload for personal use. Loading a few extra rounds to give to a friend, is still going to be considered personal use, so long as no money is changing hands. In general it's when you start selling reloads, that one requires a Class 6 FFL. That's how the Vegas Shooter guy got in trouble, is he sold non-FFL licensed ammo commerciallly to bump-stock-Trump-hater. Even going so far as doing so as a business "Specialized Military Ammunition", but without ever getting the license. To be honest, he's probably lucky he only got 13 months for that, considering how flagerantly he was violating ATF doing all this without getting a Class 6.
as to path forward to OP, really it will come down to a philosophy of usage. If the 6.5 Grendel rifle is intended as a fun target and general purpose gun, that can also be used as hunting, then he's in for a frustrating future. However, if the goal here is a high performance applied firearm for hunting usage, where the semi-auto high capacity capability is valued, in the goal of focused hunting usage, it's really not that big of a deal. Most deer hunters, who just deer hunt, will go through a 20 round box of ammo every 5 years. And yet, their chosen rifle feeds the family well, for those 5 years. Grendel absolutely is a viable role, and if I were to go hunting in a magazine restricted location and anticpate engaging my deer with 1, at most 2, shots, a 6.5 Grendel AR15 would still be my preferred choice over a 30-30, or .308 bolt action, even if I only plan on shooting 2 of the 17 rounds in the gun. In that setting, for the most part, who cares if each shot was $3 vs $0.85?
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - EastTNHunter - 01-21-2022
Brandon banned import ammo from Russia
6.5 Grendel Ammo too expensive for me - Glenn54 - 01-21-2022
EastTNHunter Wrote:Brandon banned import ammo from Russia
I should have known that POS had something to do with it.