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130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - Zeneffect - 09-22-2021

Finally got settled after far too long of not reloading and shooting after the move.

Switched to a magnetospeed v3 + mk machining pic mount and man what a treat it is to not have to setup a chrono during a cease fire.

Anyways.. started at 29.7 up to 30.6 in .3 increments, this is the load I'll be tuning.

30.3gr LVR
2.285 COAL
130gr Berger AR Hybrid OTM
CCI 41 primers
Lapua 3x fired and 1x annealed brass
Slight taper crimp from lee die to keep things solid as I run a gas gun

Outside temp was 103 F so I'm not worried about change of season so much. 30.6 showed no signs but was audibly different i thought so stopped.

Next run (this weekend) I'll run at 300 to see grouping. 2.285 was .75moa @100

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Just a 22" rack grade criterion

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - kmon - 09-22-2021

That is the most accurate bullet I have run in both my Grendel but running CFE which is very close to LVR. Matter of fact running 30.6 in mine though 30.3 was very close to it in accuracy. Did my testing on a day when it was 101 IIRC.

On a bit cooler day did not check speed but at 40degrees those loads were still under half MOA so called it good.

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - mdram - 09-24-2021

thats fast for a 130, whats your barrel length?

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - Harpoon1 - 09-24-2021

Gotta love those spreads. I can’t believe anyone shooting the Grendel long range doesn’t shoot Lever! I haven’t found any Grendel powder that comes close to it.

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - jasper2408 - 09-24-2021

Harpoon1 Wrote:Gotta love those spreads. I can’t believe anyone shooting the Grendel long range doesn’t shoot Lever! I haven’t found any Grendel powder that comes close to it.

What load of Lever did you finally settle on Harpoon1?

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - Harpoon1 - 09-24-2021

jasper2408 Wrote:What load of Lever did you finally settle on Harpoon1?

Do you remember which projectile? I’m using it more and more in the Grendel and 223/5.56 and I’ll have to go look it up. Too many to remember off hand.

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - jasper2408 - 09-24-2021

Harpoon1 Wrote:Do you remember which projectile? I’m using it more and more in the Grendel and 223/5.56 and I’ll have to go look it up. Too many to remember off hand.

It was about this load workup you did:

Quote: Surprising ES/SD with Leverevolution

Have had a keg of Lever laying around for a couple of years now and finally got around to trying some. Wow. Can’t believe the ES/SD numbers I’m seeing with it, especially being a spherical powder. Maybe Im late to the party and shouldn’t be surprised.

Anyway...........

Howa HB 20”
Lever/Hornady Brass/ CCI 400
123 ELD-M
2.366 COL
1.770 BTO
-.020 Jump

50F/ sea level

Labradar

3 shot groups/.4 increments

30.1 2433/25/14

30.5. 2477/62/31

30.9. 2500/6/3

31.3. 2533/10/7 (only 2 shots recorded)

31.7. 2562/4/2.6

32.1. 2603/16/8

32.5 2618/3/1.8 (max per “Grendel Reloading Handbook” Vol. 2 and NOT pressure tested!)

Shot 4 more single rounds @ .2 increments looking for pressure

32.7 2634

32.9 2630

33.1 2645

33.3 2658

No signs of pressure noted and all 4 of the last single shots went into a 1 MOA group!


130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - Harpoon1 - 09-24-2021

jasper2408 Wrote:It was about this load workup you did:

I can’t find the target with the data but, I don’t think I finished it. I remember shooting some groups with the higher charge weights but don’t think I followed up with a seating depth test. I’ll keep digging around for the target, it should turn up sooner or later.

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - jasper2408 - 09-24-2021

Harpoon1 Wrote:I can’t find the target with the data but, I don’t think I finished it. I remember shooting some groups with the higher charge weights but don’t think I followed up with a seating depth test. I’ll keep digging around for the target, it should turn up sooner or later.

Ok thanks, was just curious.

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - Zeneffect - 09-25-2021

22" criterion hbar

Fwiw I'm using quickload a lot, and it's pretty close.

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - Rosecrans1 - 09-25-2021

That also is my most accurate heavy Grendel bullet. (130gr Berger AR Hybrid).
I have not used LeverRev under them but I have a lb. Like you were, I'm now in the middle of a move. Everything is boxed up and won't be out until I find a new house. I did jot down your numbers though!!!!!
Thanks!

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - Zeneffect - 10-05-2021

Did not go shooting over the weekend due to crippling pain.

Maybe this weekend. At least 8# of lvr arrived so I'm not down to last lb anymore

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - mdram - 01-10-2022

did you ever finish this testing?

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - Zeneffect - 08-08-2022

Revisiting this tomorrow actually as i got a box of 500 in. Switching it up and using a 28" krieger. Have 5 rounds each with 30-31.2 loaded in .3 increments (25 total)

I've pushed coal to ~2.315 however as I'm developing for a match, and it's single feed so might as well ignore mag length.

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - Zeneffect - 08-08-2022

Fun stuff. I thought maybe I'd see or feel something but nada. Just groups and chrono, nothing out of the ordinary today.

Looks like somewhere 30.9 and 31.2 will be where I'll be fine tuning the charge because SD is acceptable and there seems to be a trend in that area

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130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - Zeneffect - 08-08-2022

Forgot to hit a button on 1st shot, 4 recorded

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130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - Zeneffect - 08-08-2022

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Flier is the one to the right, def pulled that one. Other stray holes to the left is where I was sighting in a .223 and can be ignored.

Re-running 30.9 tomorrow and extending distances to 550 yards to see if groups hold up. Will have at least 20 over the chrono to get a better idea of sd/es.

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - Old Bob - 08-09-2022

Those groups were shot through a 28" barrel, right? That 130gr Berger bullet is scootin' right along. Any pressure signs?

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - Zeneffect - 08-09-2022

Old Bob Wrote:Those groups were shot through a 28" barrel, right? That 130gr Berger bullet is scootin' right along. Any pressure signs?

Correct 28" 1:8 twist krieger varmatch profile, ar15 platform.

Zero pressure signs even at max charge. At 31.2 there is definate compression as they grew .004 when seating. I had to adjust my die finally.

Edit. 50 more loaded, had 6 "outliers". 4 seated long by about .003 and 2 that went short .005. I can only attribute this to bullet consistency... I think I'm my 500 batch, there are 3 sizes

130gr Berger AR OTM + LVR - Zeneffect - 08-09-2022

22 more over the chrono today while hammering steel at 550yds to see if single digit SD was a fluke.
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