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Newby info. - Running la briars - 12-11-2020
Ive Been looking for a cz or howa to build my Grendelmaster on cant find any for sale. Keep hearing out of stock.
Any clue to where to look ?
Newby info. - Stinky Coyote - 12-11-2020
i'm gonna sell two howa's pretty quick, you'd wanna live in canada though as that's where i live
i think i'm gonna sell my cz with the proof carbon barrel also
Newby info. - grayfox - 12-11-2020
There are some serach engines, each one however seems to search different sites.
Gunwatcher,
ammoseek (the guns portion, a tab to the right on the web page).
Gallery of guns.
One or two of them showed some CZ's when I was looking, maybe also Bud's, try there.
Newby info. - riuma - 12-12-2020
Running la briars Wrote:Ive Been looking for a cz or howa to build my Grendelmaster on cant find any for sale. Keep hearing out of stock.
Any clue to where to look ?
Find a CZ dealer in your area and order one. I got mine in a week.~Riuma
PS: The Fort, in Big Timber, Montana has CZ Grendels on the shelf. Right across the road from C. Sharps Arms. Maybe they would ship?
Newby info. - Running la briars - 12-12-2020
Thanks, guy for the information found a few but they were bull barrels Im want a sporter barrel
Again I appreciate the help
Keepmmmmmm running
Newby info. - Oso Polaris - 12-13-2020
I have varmint/bull barrels on both CZ's and Howa. On these mini-action rifles the "Bull" barrels aren't even close to the barrel dimensions/thickness that you probably used to seeing on a standard full size action. They aren't much heavier then a mid-weight sporter profile.... somewhere in the middle of a Sporter and Remington Sendero/Varmint profile. There is marginal weight increase to this profile compared to a Sporter. I would go with this heavier profile just for ability to shoot a few more shots before barrel really heats up. Also, if you might use a suppressor of muzzle break then you will need the extra thickness just to cut the threads.
Newby info. - Harpoon1 - 12-18-2020
Running la briars Wrote:Thanks, guy for the information found a few but they were bull barrels Im want a sporter barrel
Again I appreciate the help
Keepmmmmmm running
There was a couple of CZ 527 6.5 Grendel Americans on Gunbroker a couple of days ago. Prices were reflective of these times were in though.
Newby info. - Running la briars - 01-01-2021
Happy new year 65ers Im listening to the neighbors empty there guns ////// nope not me its to hard to come by i think there over a couple hundred dollars by now
Will have to put off my GRENDELMASTER on hold a while.I was checking with local gun dealers for something to build the 6.5 g. And seen a Remington 870 20ga. Wingmaster NIB had to get it since I always wanted one to add to my 410.16, 12 ga. Remingtons (Since Im a die hard rabbit hunter first)
I seen a Ruger American in 300 blk. out on the rack Not to bad for the price an compact
I see some old threads on the Ruger in 6.5 G.
See what would fit my needs but I like the looks of the wood sporter cz 527 and theres some nice custom lite howas Project s on here
ill do some reading on It Pro an cons -&$@!
////////Till I build my toy fund back up ////////
But what Im wanting to have for next deer season is a rifle in 6.5 g with Leupold fx- 6 Short barrel around 6 1/2 lb. at most (it will be for slipping thought swamps jump shooting hogs and deer) on a welders budget
Keepmmmmmm running
Newby info. - Stinky Coyote - 01-01-2021
Ruger ranch would be just over 7 lbs scoped with fx 6x36 in weaver lows and run the c-products 7.62x39 10 round mags, accurate and needs no custom work or parts
I know I have one set up exactly like this and its my main now, sold one Howa and my Cz. My last howa is getting investment, it already has slabbed action and fluted bolt, 22 barrel getting cut back to 18.5 as we spea and will order the Pendleton stock, hinged floor pate kit and timney trigger from Wayne at Oregun very soon. Wearing a leupold 36mm or less in Talley low rings it will be in the low 5 lb range all up. It may bark a bit as theres no doubt the Ruger ranch lets you know youre shooting a real gun when you pull the trigger so taking a couple lbs off that should be interesting.
The Howa may turn into a sweetheart but its going to cost triple the ranch in money and time to get it done right. Likely wont be any more accurate either. But Ill try it out but if it cant justify itself over the ranch to me then it will get sold like the amazing cz carbon barrel I also built thinking it would be what I wanted.
Newby info. - Running la briars - 01-01-2021
Stinky Yot, like the sound of your build at 5lb. When your done I would like to know what it cost to get it feather lite. Thats a pound liter than I would be hoping to achieve.
Not in to heavy target barrels but I have a 25-06 Remington sendero and 308 Remington sps for shooting out of blinds on pipelines
I like to stalk an spot 5lbs.Would be perfect if you can make it at less than half the cost of a new Ultra lite arms.
Keepmmmmmm running
Newby info. - riuma - 01-02-2021
Running la briars Wrote:Happy new year 65ers Im listening to the neighbors empty there guns ////// nope not me its to hard to come by i think there over a couple hundred dollars by now
Will have to put off my GRENDELMASTER on hold a while.I was checking with local gun dealers for something to build the 6.5 g. And seen a Remington 870 20ga. Wingmaster NIB had to get it since I always wanted one to add to my 410.16, 12 ga. Remingtons (Since Im a die hard rabbit hunter first)
I seen a Ruger American in 300 blk. out on the rack Not to bad for the price an compact
I see some old threads on the Ruger in 6.5 G.
See what would fit my needs but I like the looks of the wood sporter cz 527 and theres some nice custom lite howas Project s on here
ill do some reading on It Pro an cons -&$@!
////////Till I build my toy fund back up ////////
But what Im wanting to have for next deer season is a rifle in 6.5 g with Leupold fx- 6 Short barrel around 6 1/2 lb. at most (it will be for slipping thought swamps jump shooting hogs and deer) on a welders budget
Keepmmmmmm running
I repeat: The Fort, in Big Timber, Montana has the 6.5 Grendel American in Rustic and Walnut. Sporter weight. The Rustic (which I like the looks of) is the same $650 it has been for the last year. Walnut $50 more. They will ship. I passed through there yesterday afternoon and talked to the sales clerk, saw the rifles in the rack. They have the best collection of CZ rifles anywhere in Montana, I think. When you get our finances back on track, there's your CZ Grendel.~Riuma
PS: My hunting rifle is a 6.5 CZ American with a 2- 7X Leupold on top. Super rig. Light and pin-point accurate....
Newby info. - Running la briars - 01-02-2021
Riuma, thanks for the information I might need it when I get my funds back up.
Ive never had to order a gun this will probably be the first time as we have numerous gun dealers in our area and they are usually loaded down with gun racks of everything under the sun.
Except for now they hardly have any guns and most are in oddball calibers
This project will definitely have to be ordered Im still Not sure what action i will use I will need it lite and which will be easier to Machine it.
Keepmmmmmm running
Newby info. - Oso Polaris - 01-02-2021
The CZ action is lighter than the Howa Mini.
Newby info. - riuma - 01-02-2021
riuma Wrote:I repeat: The Fort, in Big Timber, Montana has the 6.5 Grendel American in Rustic and Walnut. Sporter weight. The Rustic (which I like the looks of) is the same $650 it has been for the last year. Walnut $50 more. They will ship. I passed through there yesterday afternoon and talked to the sales clerk, saw the rifles in the rack. They have the best collection of CZ rifles anywhere in Montana, I think. When you get our finances back on track, there's your CZ Grendel.~Riuma
PS: My hunting rifle is a 6.5 CZ American with a 2- 7X Leupold on top. Super rig. Light and pin-point accurate....
With a Claw sling, a 2-7 Leupold (with Leupold rings) and a loaded magazine, my CZ American weighs 7 pounds 6 ounces. (On the hoof, so to speak!) It is one of the handiest hunting rifles I have owned -and one of the most accurate. Kills deer like the Hand of the Almighty. ~Riuma
Newby info. - Running la briars - 01-03-2021
Riuma, Is that with the factory Wood Sporter stock and what does the stock that you have on there now weighs.
I could Hollow out under the butt stock barrel 19 would want to lose almost a pound Maybe cut down magazine just kicking things around looking at other peoples posts see a lot of good ideas
WHAT EVER I BUILD IF IT DOES NOT MAKE WEIGHT (6lb.8oz SCOPED AND LOADED) IIIIITTS GONE
No more packing dead weight Im getting old
Newby info. - riuma - 01-03-2021
Running la briars Wrote:Riuma, Is that with the factory Wood Sporter stock and what does the stock that you have on there now weighs.
I could Hollow out under the butt stock barrel 19 would want to lose almost a pound Maybe cut down magazine just kicking things around looking at other peoples posts see a lot of good ideas
WHAT EVER I BUILD IF IT DOES NOT MAKE WEIGHT (6lb.8oz SCOPED AND LOADED) IIIIITTS GONE
No more packing dead weight Im getting old
That is with the factory stock. I haven't a clue what it weighs alone. I shoot off hand most of the time. I'm not certain that I (personally) would mess with the point and balance of this rifle for the sake of a few ounces. ~Riuma
Newby info. - Oso Polaris - 01-03-2021
You can now buy from CZ a flush mount magazine (3 rounds). I just weighed a 5-round and 3-round magazine (.223 Rem) and the weight savings is 0.5oz. The Grendel magazine has a tad more metal for the extra case width... so maybe you save 0.7oz. Honestly, the biggest weight savings you will achieve is to start shedding steel as in cut the barrel down to 18". I have the factory kevlar stocks that HS Precision and B&C made for CZ, and I believe they probably weigh as much or more than the wood stock.
Comparatively speaking the CZ barrel profiles are very slim profiles as compared to what you normally expect out of a standard action Rem/Savage/ Browning, etc. There isn't much there to think about fluting. You can either go really short 16"-18" or spend some money chasing carbon fiber barrel or a titanium barrel for $800 - +$1K before gunsmithing.
Newby info. - Running la briars - 01-03-2021
Oso, the sporter stock is nice an feel about like a 22 bolt action stock. the short mag would help too.
Newby info. - riuma - 01-04-2021
CZ does not supply 3 round magazines for the 6.5 Grendel/7.62x39. Only 223 at the moment.~Riuma
Newby info. - Oso Polaris - 01-04-2021
riuma Wrote:CZ does not supply 3 round magazines for the 6.5 Grendel/7.62x39. Only 223 at the moment.~Riuma
Fair point... I hadn't even though about that. I actually haven't held a CZ in 6.5 Grendel. I've held/owned just about every configuration chambered in .223 or 300BO, but never bothered with the 7.62x39 or 6.5 Grendel. CZ's are rare birds to find in any gunstore in Texas. Do you think that a magazine modification (cut the mag down) would work on the Grendel like what was done to the .223 Magazines before CZ started offering the factory 3-rounder?