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What can you build for 8 ft/lbs of recoil energy? A tale of two builds, CZ vs RAR. - Stinky Coyote - 09-01-2020
My two lovely's completed and compared.
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What can you build for 8 ft/lbs of recoil energy? A tale of two builds, CZ vs RAR. - Makepeace2000 - 09-01-2020
Thats a really cool comparison. And I would think the Howa Mini 20 should slot right in between.
What can you build for 8 ft/lbs of recoil energy? A tale of two builds, CZ vs RAR. - Stinky Coyote - 09-01-2020
I have the howa 20" lightweight and 22". The lightweight is around 2503 fps last chrony session. It's currently in a milled out mdt chassis (7.0 oz lighter than original) running mft battlelink minimalist butt stock and a 13 oz leupold in talley's, it's about 6 lb 10.5 oz from recollection as it sits. The kids shoot it, it's a tack driver but i hate the magazine and as soon as kids out grow needs for adjustable stock i'll probably sell it. It's been a killer for sure but mentally i'm done with howa. Have to say my fav might be the little RAR but i'm more of a blue collar guy so it's no wonder i lean slightly to it over the flashier CZ in that amazing carbon barrel.
What can you build for 8 ft/lbs of recoil energy? A tale of two builds, CZ vs RAR. - rcook10 - 09-05-2020
Stinky, have you tried the bdl bottom metal for the mini? it really change my mind about them.
What can you build for 8 ft/lbs of recoil energy? A tale of two builds, CZ vs RAR. - Stinky Coyote - 09-05-2020
Theres no bottom metal in a chassis. I never ran it as regular stock, the overweight Tupperware is still in the box. Im a detach mag guy. Its the magazine that has ruined it most for me. A 10 round ar Grendel mag is about same size and reliable. So much excess fat on the cheap magazine its laughable combined with nose down cartridges on the shot. Fail squared.
What can you build for 8 ft/lbs of recoil energy? A tale of two builds, CZ vs RAR. - Oz judge - 09-06-2020
Stinky Coyote Wrote:Theres no bottom metal in a chassis. I never ran it as regular stock, the overweight Tupperware is still in the box. Im a detach mag guy. Its the magazine that has ruined it most for me. A 10 round ar Grendel mag is about same size and reliable. So much excess fat on the cheap magazine its laughable combined with nose down cartridges on the shot. Fail squared.
Is the howa mag that bad ?
What can you build for 8 ft/lbs of recoil energy? A tale of two builds, CZ vs RAR. - Stinky Coyote - 09-06-2020
I have a cz and a ruger now. The Howa is in chassis lightened and adjustable butt stock to fit kids, I will likely sell for another ruger and chassis it for that adjustability to fit all size shooters. Wish the ruger ranch was available before the Howa I could have saved some time and money. I would not go down the Howa path again now that ruger Americans ranch available.
What can you build for 8 ft/lbs of recoil energy? A tale of two builds, CZ vs RAR. - tdbru - 09-06-2020
OJ,
for as nice an action as the Howa has, the tupperware stock and the tupperware magazine were a huge disappointment for me. and i'm not the only one. Jefferson Outdoors makes a nice flush bottom metal and Bell and Carlson make a nice synthetic stock that is rigid. however by the time you buy those two items, your little inexpensive howa is now very expensive. but i do like it. i've heard good things about the Oregon gunsmithing bottom metal too, though no firsthand experience as i went with the JO offering. of the three actions, i like the howa action the best. but like most things, the other offerings have pluses too.
-tdbru