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ar-comp vs power pro varmint - mel - 07-24-2020
so my lgs is out of ppv and cant get anymore , granted i have like 5 pounds of it but they do have plenty of ar-comp on the shelf , and i wanna stock up on some more powder.
how does ar comp compare to ppv , my second choice for a powder was ramshot tac but i cant get any of that either , so if ar-comp will be pretty close to my ppv ive been using i wouldnt mind going back and buying a pound to test out and then if it is as accurate buy up a few more pounds to put away
unfortunatly none of the load data i have includes ar-comp
ar-comp vs power pro varmint - A5BLASTER - 07-24-2020
It's way more temp stable for me that's for sure.
As too how much will be safe in the case when compared to ppv, that I can't give you because I have never run both powders on the same bullet to know how they will compare.
What I can tell you is that ar-comp makes great speed for me in my ar grendel with 120 gold dots and in my bolt grendel with 12e eld-m.
I have some ppv I would give you if I could get it legally shipped too you. Not much lil under 2 pounds.
ar-comp vs power pro varmint - Lemonaid - 07-24-2020
No experience with ar comp myself but it has a great reputation here on the forum, I doubt you would regret getting some.
As ARC was produced as a improved version RL 15, and RL 15 is one of my favorite Grendel powders ARC should be outstanding.
Nosler has a bit of load data for RL 15. The forum has plenty of favorite loads that use ARC. http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?3861-6-5-Grendel-Preferred-Loads/page23
ar-comp vs power pro varmint - mel - 07-24-2020
its to late now they just closed but i think ima pick up atleast 1lb of it tommorow and 2 boxes each more eldm in 123 and 140g , if it shoots good and accurate in my rifle ill go back and buy a few more lb's of it
just hoping it works well with the 130-140g bullets i like to shoot
one of the things i love about ppv is it works excellent from the 90g all the way up to the 153g's i tested in the grendel
ar-comp vs power pro varmint - Rugerfan.64 - 07-25-2020
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6.5 Gren 120 gr Speer data.pdf (Size: 98.5 KB / Downloads: 38)
Shooting times article , and Speer Data
ar-comp vs power pro varmint - Bobke - 07-25-2020
Used to use TAC and 8208 when I first started loading Grendel long ago, with plenty of acceptable results. Migrated to CFE for a long while, going after speed and accuracy. Short stint with PPV based on all the interest Mel has generated, but have settled on AR Comp for loading 223, 6.5GR, 308 and possibly 22-250 and light bullets in 6.5CM. Not the single best in any one category, but accuracy, temp stability, broad nodes, accessibility and cost give it the overall vote in my book. Doesnt meter as well as a ball powder, and CFE/PPV/2000MR will beat it for velocity, but am satisfied with broad positive attributes enough to have just picked up 8 more lbs yesterday, along with 5k BR4s. Im good with it. You may find 120/123s with 27ish of ARC an acceptable load.
ar-comp vs power pro varmint - Gtscotty - 07-28-2020
Is the data in the shooting times article from a 16" barrel?
ar-comp vs power pro varmint - Bobke - 07-28-2020
22 Sun Devil upper.
ar-comp vs power pro varmint - mel - 08-14-2020
just picked up 2 more pounds of ppv and 1 lb of ar-comp to try , i think the ar comp is going to be better suited to my 28" inch barreled gun , which is the reason i bought it anyway as i wanted something just a lil slower then ppv for the longer barrel
however if the ar-comp works well in my 20 im going to go grab another 3 lbs of it
ar-comp vs power pro varmint - Bobke - 08-14-2020
AR Comp is a tic faster than PPV per Hodgdon Burn Rate Chart.
https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/burn-rate-color.pdf
Still think youll like ARC once youve tried some. Testing today at 97d in Texas at 1200 get 2470ish with 27.2 and 123 Sierra BTHP in a 20 Wilson Combat barrel. 24 Satern cut rifled barrel gets 2530 with 27.3 and 2520 at 27.2 with 123 Nosler CCs. I start gettin some compression in Hornady brass with Sierras at 2.265 OAL.
Some points of reference for your testing.
ar-comp vs power pro varmint - mel - 08-14-2020
I loaded up 6 123 elds 3 each at 27.2 and 27.4 to start with fed 205 gm match primers 92* out so we'll see what it does soon as I clock out of work