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Previously Shot Hog - Double Naught Spy - 04-29-2020
I hunted for several hours at one place and saw nothing and headed home. The trip home takes me by some of my other properties that I can scan from the gate and one had a hog present. Wind was in my favor. I made a decent stalk on the hog, ended up using a barbed wire fence for a shooting rest because it was dark enough that I could not be certain I wasn't going to shoot a wire. You can hear a prolonged thrum from the shot/recoil reverberating through the barbed wire fencing - tight fence. In the ear, so the hog went down right away. However, what I thought was pretty cool was that the hog had been shot previously. It looks like the wound had healed well enough except for the blow out of the exit wound that left a finger sized tunnel extending under the skin along the backstrap about 3/4 of an inch. I have come across a half dozen previously shot hogs over the years that had healed wounds. That animals can do this in the wild without medical help/antibiotics is amazing to me.
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Previously Shot Hog - pacificpt - 04-29-2020
Interesting to know more about the prior shot the boar survived. It is amazing how tough they can be.
Previously Shot Hog - RobertFL - 04-29-2020
Thanks for posting another awesome video. Both hogs and deer are pretty tough and have a strong will to live. I was helping a friend clean a 140 pound hog and we found a 4 blade muzzy broadhead with about 4 inches of an aluminum arrow in the front shoulder..it was healed over and we had no idea it was inside until we quartered the hog.
Previously Shot Hog - Double Naught Spy - 04-29-2020
Robert, theat would be cool and terrible to find, all at the same time. I suspect that sooner or later I may find a bullet from somebody else inside of a hog, but have not so far. A buddy of mine in east Texas has pics of a large lump he excised. It was a puss lump that he said smelled awful, but inside of it was a .22 lr. bullet.
Previously Shot Hog - sundowner - 04-29-2020
Another great video .
Previously Shot Hog - Jackd - 04-29-2020
really enjoyed the video!
I hunt Piggies here in SW Florida I use my AR 223 wyld may have to try the Grendel I have a Howa bolt gun and A Precision AR
Previously Shot Hog - tdbru - 04-29-2020
perhaps another reason for using an adequate hammer on animals? DNS is a good enough marksman that he can make CNS hits. for the rest of us? maybe a bit bigger hammer if going for chest shot??? it's not the 90% success rate that concerns me with marginal calibers. it's the 10% failure rate. everyone brags on making a DRT kill with little calibers at long ranges. wonder how many hits were made with unrecoverable game before one manages to bring one game animal down?? in other parts of the world, if you take the shot, you pay the fee. whether or not you recover the animal. as DNS shows by example, shot placement is key with ANY caliber. so for some the 6.5 Grendel is NOT marginal, for others it might be. right now, for me, it's a moot point as we're all under lock down. i won't be hunting soon. at least until stuff starts to open back up. just some thoughts. and of course you're free to disagree.
-tdbru
Previously Shot Hog - 1Shot - 04-30-2020
"It ain't what you shoot them with it is where you shoot them." Quote from the old man that started me out deer hunting. If the above mentioned hog had been shot with a 300 Win mag and the bullet did not hit a vital the results would be the same. Said hog had a hole completely through it but the bullet did not hit anything vital. Most would say that the 7x57 was not an elephant rifle but Bell killed 1000+ with one. He could brain shoot one from most any angle I once read. As Dirty Harry said, "A man has got to know his limitations."
Previously Shot Hog - Double Naught Spy - 04-30-2020
Yeah, Grendel is more than adequate for hogs, even when not making CNS shots. I like CNS shots because I know where the hog will be and don't have to track it. If you make a heart, liver, or double lung shot, it should be down within 100 yards. You get the same result with a .308, .300 win mag, .45-70.
What some bigger calibers may give you is more of a chance to benefit from hydrostatic shock (damage to the brain by a shot that impacts well away from the head), but hydrostatic shock is not something that happens reliably with any typical hunting caliber.
If you are incapable of hitting the boiler room (heart/lungs), liver, or CNS, a bigger caliber isn't reliably likely to be much help to you.
Previously Shot Hog - TomSawyerNW - 04-30-2020
Love these! Thanks!
Previously Shot Hog - sundowner - 04-30-2020
Double Naught Spy Wrote:Yeah, Grendel is more than adequate for hogs, even when not making CNS shots. I like CNS shots because I know where the hog will be and don't have to track it. If you make a heart, liver, or double lung shot, it should be down within 100 yards. You get the same result with a .308, .300 win mag, .45-70.
What some bigger calibers may give you is more of a chance to benefit from hydrostatic shock (damage to the brain by a shot that impacts well away from the head), but hydrostatic shock is not something that happens reliably with any typical hunting caliber.
If you are incapable of hitting the boiler room (heart/lungs), liver, or CNS, a bigger caliber isn't reliably likely to be much help to you.
Well said DNS .
Previously Shot Hog - A5BLASTER - 04-30-2020
Double Naught Spy Wrote:Yeah, Grendel is more than adequate for hogs, even when not making CNS shots. I like CNS shots because I know where the hog will be and don't have to track it. If you make a heart, liver, or double lung shot, it should be down within 100 yards. You get the same result with a .308, .300 win mag, .45-70.
What some bigger calibers may give you is more of a chance to benefit from hydrostatic shock (damage to the brain by a shot that impacts well away from the head), but hydrostatic shock is not something that happens reliably with any typical hunting caliber.
If you are incapable of hitting the boiler room (heart/lungs), liver, or CNS, a bigger caliber isn't reliably likely to be much help to you.
Having shot hogs with just about every caliber and cartridge design. I have yet to find a round that drops them DRT 100% of the time without hitting the cns system.
To me hydrostatic shock is like hocus pocus.
Also agree if someone can't hit the vitals with the grendel, going to a bigger harder kicking cartridge isn't going to help them make killing shots.
Previously Shot Hog - rickt300 - 05-02-2020
I shot a spotted hog a couple of years ago, white with round black spots. It was running uphill and away from me. The bullet appeared to hit the hog on the right side. I tracked him off the property. Two weeks later I shot the same hog at a feeder this time he was down and dead. When I went to dress him I found a massive infection and an oozing hole where the bullet had hit near the backstrap and run down the side of the ribcage exiting just inside the front leg. This hog was miserable and might have survived if I hadn't shot him again, I don't know for sure. He did not end up in the freezer!
Previously Shot Hog - Double Naught Spy - 05-02-2020
I would say you were a little slow on the follow-up shot, but when you made it, you made it count. Good job!
Previously Shot Hog - tdbru - 05-02-2020
well, i know my limitations. and likely i'll never get a chance to shoot a hog anyway. From DNS's vid's, it appears a hog brain may be 3" in diameter roughly? the heart lung region is what? 9" in diameter on a hog? of course bigger caliber only lets the blood out faster if you can shoot it accurately.
i can understand DNS' desire to drop them without them running 100 yards first, and he is a mighty fine shot. since i'm not so sure i could hit a 3" circle, from a field rest, out to some of the ranges that DNS has, i think i'd go for the heart/lung shot if i was shooting a hog. of course that means i'd have to track it to recover it.
on the other hand, if the distances were close enough, for me, to guarantee that i could brain the hog, then for sure CNS would be the way to go.
man, can't wait to get out to the range..... sigh....
-tdbru