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(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - FANGGHOSTWOLF - 01-07-2019
After all the reading and vids I have rolled the dice?
Cheaped out and ordered the 20" 4150 Nitrade heavy fluted barreled complete upper from BCA.
Yes I was fully informed here and else where of the chances of a shooter. Hey if I can get 400 yards out of it I'll be happy. Surely even if it does not meet my expectations I can salvage some of the money in usable parts for another build.
I totally agree a self build is the way to go! I'll deal with the changes of return and replace with an open mind.
Dang sure got my feet wet now. Be it good or just dog poop? At least I cut the chase of another builder to deal with on the BCA BARREL ⁉️�� For $219 it's deal or a dumbass move. ��
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - papasplace - 01-07-2019
I wish you well.
I have been trying to resolve an issue on my Christmas present.. the M-lok handguard is out of spec and can not get any M-Lok attachments to fit in the way undersized slots.
I wrote to the warranty dept on 12-27 and tried calling more then a dozen times(no one answers and voice mail box is always full). I have yet to receive any kind of answer.
Hopefully everything else about the upper is going to work and That worst case i just need to get a new handguard.
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - opticsguy - 01-07-2019
I shot a 3/4" group with a 24" nitride last week. Good luck.
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - A5BLASTER - 01-07-2019
opticsguy Wrote:I shot a 3/4" group with a 24" nitride last week. Good luck.
At what yardage?
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - FANGGHOSTWOLF - 01-08-2019
Well thanks all. I just rolled the dice. I had no problems contacting them by phone and spoke with the tech department.
They build the handguards in house so they claim. QC and standards are claimed to have been revisited and worked over. I expected that as a comment for the company name sake. I'll except that and test the waters. There are just too many builders using their barrels still to today and we have no clue who might be using their blank barrels? I've contacted several other vendors that either do in house barrels with no mention of the blank brand? Then there are those that will not let out of the bag the barrels? BCA among many teir 1 barrels. Cheap for a reason.
I can deal with the out of spec handguard myself. Easy fix there but I agree it should be a std mlok fit across the board. And yes that handguard issue does red flag the complete gun as far as QC.
HEY IF it turns out for the worse I'll have to deal with it. But I will note in many top brand items I have had issues that we're strange that a good QC should have caught. I'm not saying app my years of Welding inspecting QC that I could have missed some out of spec
Welds or material.
With the greatest cnc machines the mas producing of parts in spec should be at a min. That is if the setup is correct?
A QC can not inspect every item made.
I'll see soon what I bought. I'll gladly share my experience be it good or bad and I can't complain if it goes south.
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - bugsbunny45 - 01-08-2019
Where did you find one? Every place I look seems to be sold out.
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - FANGGHOSTWOLF - 01-08-2019
Direct with BCA. I figured I just see what they had to say about the issues and instock inventory. After the holidays I know vendors deplete their stock. Lowering the inventory always was good on taxes. With many people taking off for holidays some companies run Skelton crews and a production suffers.
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - DeputyDog25 - 01-08-2019
I found mine at Primary Arms last week.
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - bugsbunny45 - 01-08-2019
They been showing sold out all day. Seems like others that sell their 20 inch are sold out also.
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - FANGGHOSTWOLF - 01-08-2019
https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/bca-ar-15-complete-upper-assembly-20-4150-black-nitride-straight-fluted-barrel-6-5-grendel-rifle-length-gas-system-1-8-twist-w-15-m-lok
In stock
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - Wanderson - 01-08-2019
I did the same, I liked my 12” PSA nitride 6.5 Grendel upper so much I wanted another 20” upper but PSA was out of stock, and BCA’s 20” stainless upper was available for $230 so I gambled. Fit n function is fine but haven’t had it out to 100 yards yet. But first trip out to dial in my optics with Hornady Black was encouraging.
No problem mounting an Mlok rail on my hand guard. Mated upper on an A2 lower with a 7 oz. rifle buffer that I’ve been using for a 7.62x39 16” upper. A very soft recoiling setup.
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - opticsguy - 01-08-2019
A5BLASTER Wrote:At what yardage?100 yds of course.
The guy next to me with a bolt action .308 could barely do 2.5"
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - bugsbunny45 - 01-08-2019
I pulled the trigger and ordered mines. We will see how it works out its going on an Anderson lower from Primary Arms..
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - Mark611 - 01-08-2019
Myself and my brother are also looking at the BCA uppers, I found a 24'' CMV Nitride side charger from Pro 2A, I think that this is the 1 I'm going to give a spin, any a pinions on these?
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - cwlongshot - 01-08-2019
I ordered a 20" Stainless fluted HB Grendel last June.
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It arrived with a short Chamber, Primary arms earned a customer for life! AWESOME service on my BCA barrel! New one was sent and this one is fine and shoots MOA or a bit better and all I "NEED" from this upper.
Shoots 123SST on top of Benchmark like this at 100:
![[Image: C343D975-A85E-42C9-8027-BD705CD74412_zpsmwrhsc54.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/A%20Lead%20Depositor%20Display/Grendel/C343D975-A85E-42C9-8027-BD705CD74412_zpsmwrhsc54.jpg)
![[Image: 1EF33AA9-FE2F-4F65-876B-A8173F86F8BC_zpsjeau8jpg.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/A%20Lead%20Depositor%20Display/Grendel/1EF33AA9-FE2F-4F65-876B-A8173F86F8BC_zpsjeau8jpg.jpg)
This @ 200
![[Image: DCD97F28-7A20-47E3-B8DB-CDA9ADB152A7_zps4qorovoq.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/A%20Lead%20Depositor%20Display/Grendel/DCD97F28-7A20-47E3-B8DB-CDA9ADB152A7_zps4qorovoq.jpg)
For 69$ Im happy with it.
CW
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - FANGGHOSTWOLF - 01-09-2019
I would be super happy with those results.
BCA waisted no time on my order. Email with tracking indicted 01/10/2019 delivery. So it's headed this way. Nice B day present from me to me.
I've got the Alexander 17 round mags, Precision Armament M4-72 brake and m-Lok rail attachments coming. The only thing left is the trigger upgade and some ammo.
I'll know soon just what I got good or bad.��
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - Broken Arrow - 01-09-2019
I ordered the BCA 18" upper. Had to send the first one back. The replacement is starting to group around 1.5 at 100 yards with Sierra Pro Hunter bullets and 8202 powder. I found this load after spending about $200 on bullets and powder. If I could do it over I would buy the green mountain group buy barrel. If it shoots anything like GM 10/22 barrels shoot it will be a tack driver.
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - FANGGHOSTWOLF - 01-09-2019
The GM barrel should be a great barrel. I've not had the GM in PB'S But I have in pcp air guns. They are great in the pcp and I can rate them with the LW barrels. LW barrels are good in the air gun world but totally a different league vs PB'S.
This will be a start and there are many good barrels available. I can always yank the barrel out and replace it if needed.if the rest of theBCA upper are any good I'd say I got my money's worth.
The only bad thing in a bad barrel being replace is u pay shipping on returns. That being said many items are the same on returns for warranty. I can do the return 1 time and after that I'll deal with that my way.
Being it is a CC purchase I still have an advantage on the purchase. At least till the government restrictions ever take place. It's coming and soon?
How eBay is still selling gun related items plus being able to us PayPal is questionable?
PP policy is no gun related purchases.
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - FANGGHOSTWOLF - 01-09-2019
Well I found out that the 6.5 Grendel ammo local is like hens teeth. I only check the main large gun store that I thought might have it. Yes they did. Only 2 boxes of the Federal Fusion 120 gr F65GDLMSR1. Dang hi priced for brake in ammo @ $24.75 per box plus 9.5 % tax! Ouch!!!
I knew I should have ordered on line the ammo. It's a starting point in this new adventure for sure. Be it good or bad I'll deal with it.
I'm thinking about hand lapping the new barrel? Or should I just clean all the upper up and do a brake in swobbing after shots? I can see the expense more now on the rolling the dice but I knew this to begin with. I'll be throwing the glass on the upper and making each shot for scope setting @ 35 yards. Then Go to the �� yard mark later. $50+ in ammo will not go far. Lol Just the price you pay to play. Sure was counting on some less expensive ammo to do a brake in or at least start the brake in.
I got meds for this bad fever I have developed. Lol Maybe I will get over this Grendel fever.
(Cheaped out) BCA 20" - A5BLASTER - 01-09-2019
FANGGHOSTWOLF Wrote:Well I found out that the 6.5 Grendel ammo local is like hens teeth. I only check the main large gun store that I thought might have it. Yes they did. Only 2 boxes of the Federal Fusion 120 gr F65GDLMSR1. Dang hi priced for brake in ammo @ $24.75 per box plus 9.5 % tax! Ouch!!!
I knew I should have ordered on line the ammo. It's a starting point in this new adventure for sure. Be it good or bad I'll deal with it.
I'm thinking about hand lapping the new barrel? Or should I just clean all the upper up and do a brake in swobbing after shots? I can see the expense more now on the rolling the dice but I knew this to begin with. I'll be throwing the glass on the upper and making each shot for scope setting @ 35 yards. Then Go to the �� yard mark later. $50+ in ammo will not go far. Lol Just the price you pay to play. Sure was counting on some less expensive ammo to do a brake in or at least start the brake in.
I got meds for this bad fever I have developed. Lol Maybe I will get over this Grendel fever.
Take this as you wish.
Barrel break in go to range with the rifle and 200 rounds.
Shot the first 20 rounds slow enough to never warm the barrel up, think 5 mints between each shoot.
After that have at it your barrel is broke in, don't waist cleaning supplys are money on lapping compound.
If your barrel isn't settled in after 20 slow fire rounds it's a turd and you should pull it and replace with a better barrel.