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Scope for next build - Swampfox - 12-12-2018
Ok Im planning my next build a 458 SOCOM 16 barrel for hog hunting. I have a good idea on all the parts I will use just have no clue as far as a scope. Any suggestions?
Scope for next build - ty_hooper12 - 12-12-2018
Something in the 1-4x or 1-6x range would be great for that. Maybe a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6 or a Leupold VX-Freedom 1-4
Scope for next build - RobertFL - 12-12-2018
I have a 2.5 x 10x Bushnell Elite 4500 on my 450 BM and 6.5 Grendel rifles. So far no problems, price was good too.
Scope for next build - RobertFL - 12-12-2018
To add to My post above...My rifles are for hunting hogs and deer, I don't shoot much, no long range paper or steel at this time. Most of my hunting shots are less than 60 yards from a ladder stand or Sitting on a chair in natural ground blind, my hunt club is mostly think stuff so not good for spot and stalk.
Scope for next build - Swampfox - 12-13-2018
Robert about 100 yards is all I will shoot it. TY I do like the strike eagle, but I’m just sold on a 24mm objective if one has to shoot at low light.
Scope for next build - JoeFriday - 12-14-2018
I'm thinking of a 450 Bushmaster and I have a Sig Romeo5 red dot sitting around that I think will be what I put on it to start with.
Scope for next build - A5BLASTER - 12-14-2018
100 yard max distance, I would be putting on a red dot sight that has a 2 moa dot.
Scope for next build - murfvol - 12-18-2018
A red dot is a great idea for 100 yards.
If you want glass, my Burris 1.5x6 has been fantastic for super close to 275 yard shots. I'm amazed how quickly I can acquire targets 10' away, and how it can still pick up a golf ball at almost 300 yards.
Scope for next build - Swampfox - 12-18-2018
Yeah red dot does sound good
Scope for next build - LRRPF52 - 12-19-2018
Red Dots are great until you need to PID antlerless vs antlers with background vegetation in the shadows.
A lot of Red Dots have a terrible hue to the glass that really cuts down on light passage through the optics as well.
Scope for next build - Swampfox - 12-19-2018
LRRPF52 Wrote:Red Dots are great until you need to PID antlerless vs antlers with background vegetation in the shadows.
A lot of Red Dots have a terrible hue to the glass that really cuts down on light passage through the optics as well.
What is your recommendation?
Scope for next build - NeilVT79 - 12-20-2018
Swampfox, what is your price range? I would suggest a low powered variable. Their are many good options depending on your budget.
I agree with LRRPF52, tried a red dot for hunting and have had that very situation where I could not identify if the deer had antlers.
Scope for next build - Swampfox - 12-20-2018
NeilVT79 Wrote:Swampfox, what is your price range? I would suggest a low powered variable. Their are many good options depending on your budget.
I agree with LRRPF52, tried a red dot for hunting and have had that very situation where I could not identify if the deer had antlers.
Neil I was looking at possibly a vortex strike Eagle Or vortex viper in the 2-7 power range. The issue I looking at was low light situations with small objectives. Here in NC I get six deer tags a year, and no hog limit. So I’m not really need to worry about antlers plus I have boiled and boiled antlers and they haven’t got soft enough to eat.
Scope for next build - NeilVT79 - 12-20-2018
Ok, so your're looking at around $300 range, want something good for low light, and will be hunting within 60-100 yard range? If low light is a concern then I would not recomend either of those vortex scopes since neither has an illuminated reticle.
You should look into a 3x prizm scope. They have the quick acquisition of a red dot but can make very precise shots out to 100 easy. They have a larger field of view than with most 1-6 scopes. Also they have an illuminated reticle for low light and if you have astigmatism it will be clean and crisp compared to a red dot.
Their are several good brands that make 3x prizms, Vortex spifire 3x, Athlon Midas BTR, and Primary Arms 3x to name a few. I personally have the PA 3x on a 10" 7.62x39 AR and I love it.
Here in VT we can't shoot any deer with a rifle that doesn't have at least a 3pt rack. We only can get the does during archery and muzzleloader.
Scope for next build - NebSig - 12-20-2018
I second the 3x prism. I have a vortex ar 1x on a 100yd max gun. It is crisp enough, decent field of view. Just wish I had thought a little further and gone with the 3x. 1x is great 10-50yd, but those 100yd shots are hard to get precise on. But it's plenty to rock a shot into the boiler room.
Scope for next build - LRRPF52 - 12-20-2018
For a magnified optic on something with the recoil from .458 SOCOM, one main consideration is going to be eye relief.
It isn't something you're going to get on with nose to charge handle, as there have been guys that had their faces and upper lips cut.
That's one thing I would consider with glassing a .458 SOCOM.
Huge eye relief and huge exit pupil.
Maybe a Leupold VX 1-4 Hog would work.
Ask around on a forum with more .458 SOCOM users to get better sample size input as well.
Scope for next build - Swampfox - 12-21-2018
NeilVT79 Wrote:Ok, so your're looking at around $300 range, want something good for low light, and will be hunting within 60-100 yard range? If low light is a concern then I would not recomend either of those vortex scopes since neither has an illuminated reticle.
You should look into a 3x prizm scope. They have the quick acquisition of a red dot but can make very precise shots out to 100 easy. They have a larger field of view than with most 1-6 scopes. Also they have an illuminated reticle for low light and if you have astigmatism it will be clean and crisp compared to a red dot.
Their are several good brands that make 3x prizms, Vortex spifire 3x, Athlon Midas BTR, and Primary Arms 3x to name a few. I personally have the PA 3x on a 10" 7.62x39 AR and I love it.
Here in VT we can't shoot any deer with a rifle that doesn't have at least a 3pt rack. We only can get the does during archery and muzzleloader.
Here in NC we have so many deer it is no antler restrictions. I do like the idea of Prism sight and never had a issue with a vortex.
Scope for next build - Swampfox - 12-21-2018
Quick question I was thinking of building the 458 with a A2 upper and putting the spitfire Prism 3x on top of the handle. Am I crazy?
Scope for next build - LRRPF52 - 12-21-2018
Swampfox Wrote:Quick question I was thinking of building the 458 with a A2 upper and putting the spitfire Prism 3x on top of the handle. Am I crazy?
You'll just need to open your ejection port.
Scope for next build - Swampfox - 12-21-2018
LRRP I know I was just thinking to do that I wouldn’t want to do that to a original colt A2 would have to be a aftermarket