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24" AA Overwatch with Cheap Shaw barrel Shooting American Gunner Ammo - bj139 - 09-20-2018
I decided to take out my 24" Grendel Overwatch for a test drive.
Hornady American Gunner Ammo
16X SWFA SS scope
"Cheap, Rack Grade" Shaw barrel
80% Lower with Delton 2 stage trigger
It looks like all groups are less than 1 MOA.
Not too bad for me. I am not sure I would be able to do much better with a "Good" barrel.
I think a higher power scope would be better for me. Maybe one of them 24X Vortexes.
I think I will try drawing my targets closer to 0.25 MOA.
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24" AA Overwatch with Cheap Shaw barrel Shooting American Gunner Ammo - Dead Center Miss - 09-20-2018
I've always liked the ER shaw barrels on savage bolt guns. Looks like they work pretty well on ARs too!
24" AA Overwatch with Cheap Shaw barrel Shooting American Gunner Ammo - bj139 - 09-20-2018
I was told in one of my previous posts about my Overwatch that they were cheap barrels so I thought I should mention it.
It is good enough for me. I would buy another Shaw barrel. Pricewise, they seem to be midprice, like Ballistic Advantage or Faxon.
24" AA Overwatch with Cheap Shaw barrel Shooting American Gunner Ammo - bj139 - 09-20-2018
I have shot my best groups from simple drawn circles on white paper.
With factory targets I end up aligning the cross hairs with the large circle or diamond instead of aiming at the small spot I am trying to hit.
I will look for simple black stick on dots and try those.
I could try black thumb tacks.
Then I could find out if my barrel is a tackdriver.
I have been meaning to bring some light bulbs to the the range. Then I could shoot "lights out".
24" AA Overwatch with Cheap Shaw barrel Shooting American Gunner Ammo - BluntForceTrauma - 09-20-2018
Or you could arrange to have some insects crawl on your targets and shoot bug- . . . .
24" AA Overwatch with Cheap Shaw barrel Shooting American Gunner Ammo - Dead Center Miss - 09-20-2018
I often will just shoot a hole in a blank piece of paper and use that for a aim point lol
24" AA Overwatch with Cheap Shaw barrel Shooting American Gunner Ammo - bj139 - 09-20-2018
BluntForceTrauma Wrote:Or you could arrange to have some insects crawl on your targets and shoot . . . .
What did Jed and Jethro smear on the gatepost in Beverly Hills so they could shoot flies? Was it jam?
Quote: I often will just shoot a hole in a blank piece of paper and use that for a aim point lolDCM, I like that idea as well.
24" AA Overwatch with Cheap Shaw barrel Shooting American Gunner Ammo - 1Shot - 09-21-2018
Some of the smallest groups I have ever shot were on targets that I made by drawing a triangle colored in with a black marker on a white piece of paper. Put the cross hair on the tip of the top of the triangle. Aim small miss small.
24" AA Overwatch with Cheap Shaw barrel Shooting American Gunner Ammo - bj139 - 09-21-2018
1Shot Wrote:Some of the smallest groups I have ever shot were on targets that I made by drawing a triangle colored in with a black marker on a white piece of paper. Put the cross hair on the tip of the top of the triangle. Aim small miss small.
Aim small miss small. I haven't heard that in a long time. Thanks for the reminder.
How about these? 2100 for $8.99 with free shipping.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Color-Coding-Labels-3-8-Round-10-mm-Black-Dot-Stickers-0-375-inch-rounds-sticker-by-Royal-Green/196013143
24" AA Overwatch with Cheap Shaw barrel Shooting American Gunner Ammo - Sticks - 09-21-2018
A 12ga shotgun shell is just under MOA, a 20ga is 3/4, a .410 is .5.
Targets of opportunity.
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Girlfriend did theses (kept them to boost her confidence). Makeshift game at 100y sticking these in the cardboard target backer. 20-30 of them, each person shoots until they miss, then the next person. Have to go L-R, Top to Bottom to keep track of really bad misses (wrong shell disappears).
24" AA Overwatch with Cheap Shaw barrel Shooting American Gunner Ammo - bj139 - 09-21-2018
209 spent primers? Hmm.