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Why you should cryo your gun parts. - Eod1 - 04-09-2018
This is a good read. I did not know to much about the cryo process untill my father showed me what it can do wit it. I'm from Indiana and at the time my father was pretty high up in the Indy car and Fourmula 1 race car scene. He showed me why you would want to freeze car parts to make them stronger and last longer. Then I went into the service. With the people I worked with they were experimenting with freezing barrels to get better performance out of them. I learned a lot. To much to try to explain here. But I can send you to some sights that can help you if you want to learn more.
http://www.300below.com/firearms-cryo-barrel/
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - Sticks - 04-09-2018
You related to Vector16?
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - grayfox - 04-09-2018
A magical cure-what-ails-ya in the shooting sport? I don't see any stats or reports on how many barrels were not "helped", nor how many barrels or actions that failed from brittle fracture. Nor any test barrels that were say, sectioned before and after to document changes in microstructure. Not saying this is an impossible claim, but it sure needs some objective data... some steels will fail on their own at temperatures of -40 to -50 *F.
For the vast majority of shooters, the "opening up" of a shot group is more attributable to the person than the rifle imo. Whether some tiredness, losing some focus, inability to reproduce all the positional and mechanics of the shot... how many of us can repeatedly make 10/10 in free throws... as swhishers/nothing but net? Or 10/10 in three-pointers? Maybe the ball should be cryo-treated!!!
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - LR1955 - 04-09-2018
Guys
Cryo treating was a very short lived fad about twenty or thirty years ago. The guys shooting cryo treated barrels swore it worked. Then more and more guys started using cryo barrels and opinions started to differ. I think the rage for cryo barrels was about two or three years then collapsed. Once more people started using cryo treated barrels, more and more said it didn't do anything. A few said it made things worse.
I guess if a guy wants to dump more money into a barrel then he can get it cryo treated and it won't hurt anything but it probably won't make anything better, either.
Your choice guys. I don't think it does much if anything.
LR55
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - Eod1 - 04-09-2018
Just thought I would discuss all the ways u can make your gun parts and barrels better. I would bet my life on it and I have. When u think u have done everything u think u can do to your rifle to make it the best it can be, why not go that extra mile and have it frozen. What would it hurt. I try to think outside the box when it comes to accuracy. I even have trigger made with roller bearings installed on the finger pad of my trigger. That way my finger can glide across the trigger without pushing or pulling the barrel right or left. As for vector16, I do know him, Why? Here is a AR trigger I have made. Any questions?
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - Kswhitetails - 04-09-2018
Troll. My vote.
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - terrywick4 - 04-09-2018
There still are companies out there that cyro there barrels after machining them to relieve stress. Off hand I can't remember which one do it but there are several.
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - BCHunter - 04-09-2018
If I had a barrel I couldn't get to shoot moa I might try this as a last resort, depending on cost. I have been very fortunate that I haven't drawn a bad barrel of the 20 rifles and pistols I own the operator is the biggest cause of inaccuracy. I don't shoot competively so someone else's needs might justify it.
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - LR1955 - 04-09-2018
BCHunter Wrote:If I had a barrel I couldn't get to shoot moa I might try this as a last resort, depending on cost. I have been very fortunate that I haven't drawn a bad barrel of the 20 rifles and pistols I own the operator is the biggest cause of inaccuracy. I don't shoot competively so someone else's needs might justify it.
BC:
Take my word for it, if cryo treatment assured better performance from a barrel, every single competitive shooter on earth would have a cryo treated barrel. And you would not find a barrel company that would sell a barrel not cryo treated.
Spend the money if you want. I doubt it will hurt anything. It may even help a barrel that was not properly stress relieved when it was made. But I doubt it will improve a top end barrel.
LR55
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - BCHunter - 04-09-2018
Just trying to keep an open mind, I currently have no need for it. As my guns are more accurate then I can shoot them. So any benefits gained would be hard to capitalize on.
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - Eod1 - 04-09-2018
LR1955 Wrote:BC:
Take my word for it, if cryo treatment assured better performance from a barrel, every single competitive shooter on earth would have a cryo treated barrel. And you would not find a barrel company that would sell a barrel not cryo treated.
Spend the money if you want. I doubt it will hurt anything. It may even help a barrel that was not properly stress relieved when it was made. But I doubt it will improve a top end barrel.
LR55
Take your word for it????? Are u kidding. I'm passing on my knowledge. I expect each person on this form to do their dudilagince and find out for themselves. Taking your word for it sounds like sounds foolish and unintelligent. Talking your word for it or your opinion does not let people think for themselves.
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - Popeye212 - 04-09-2018
Will it make my hair grow back?
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - Eod1 - 04-09-2018
Kswhitetails Wrote:Troll. My vote.
Troll !!! Coming from you , that's funny. I have been watching this site for a while. No long time. A lot of people on here know some, a lot know nothing while a lot think they know A LOT. I thought i would come on and give my 2 cents and see if i could draw out the posers. All the people who question it and go looking and keep a open mind about cryo freezing along with other manufacturing proseecess are smart. The ones that come right out and say bad things with out anything to back it up are not smart. That person should put down the grill cheese sandwich get up and leave their parents basement and go do some research. I'm just bringing it up because it has helped me in the past and may help YOU.
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - keystone183 - 04-09-2018
Eod1 Wrote:Just thought I would discuss all the ways u can make your gun parts and barrels better. I would bet my life on it and I have. When u think u have done everything u think u can do to your rifle to make it the best it can be, why not go that extra mile and have it frozen. What would it hurt. I try to think outside the box when it comes to accuracy. I even have trigger made with roller bearings installed on the finger pad of my trigger. That way my finger can glide across the trigger without pushing or pulling the barrel right or left. As for vector16, I do know him, Why? Here is a AR trigger I have made. Any questions?
One question......what is your website where i can learn more, and possibly buy?
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - Drillboss - 04-09-2018
Eod1 Wrote:Take your word for it????? Are u kidding. I'm passing on my knowledge. I expect each person on this form to do their dudilagince and find out for themselves. Taking your word for it sounds like sounds foolish and unintelligent. Talking your word for it or your opinion does not let people think for themselves.
Having done some dudilagince on '55's background and experience, I'll take his word for it. I don't care if it does sound like sound foolish and unintelligent.
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - StoneHendge - 04-09-2018
I'm thinking of sending in my tank barrel - I've been stringing shots past 4000 yards.
JP cryo's all of his barrels and I don't think anyone can say that it hurts. I will say my JP barrel can maintain accuracy and go longer between cleanings than any other barrel I have. I will be spending the weekend with the legend himself and will see if I can extract any empirical evidence.
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - Eod1 - 04-09-2018
Drillboss Wrote:Having done some dudilagince on '55's background and experience, I'll take his word for it. I don't care if it does sound like sound foolish and unintelligent.
I care, you must be part of the sheeple. I will make sure u are on point so I know where u r all the time.
. Just saying
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - Eod1 - 04-09-2018
keystone183 Wrote:One question......what is your website where i can learn more, and possibly buy?
Here is the info if you can think for yourself and want to be a wolf.
http://www.300below.com/firearms-cryo-barrel/
https://diversifiedcryogenics.com/gunbarrels.html
http://www.cryopro.com/gun.html
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - Randy99CL - 04-09-2018
Eod1 Wrote:As for vector16, I do know him, Why?
He knows vector16, LOL what are the odds of that? He IS vector 16, same wild claims, same bad grammar and incomplete thoughts, same childish reaction to negative comments.
Isn't it funny that two different posters show up at about the same time with both making wild claims about one unpopular process? Someone's got a financial stake in this.
This troll needs banned, along with his alter ego.
Why you should cryo your gun parts. - LR1955 - 04-09-2018
Eod1 Wrote:Take your word for it????? Are u kidding. I'm passing on my knowledge. I expect each person on this form to do their dudilagince and find out for themselves. Taking your word for it sounds like sounds foolish and unintelligent. Talking your word for it or your opinion does not let people think for themselves.
Eod1:
No problem.
LR55