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Favorite Powder - Goju - 03-18-2011
Checking to see what the favorite powder for the experienced Grendel reloaders is; specifically for barrel lengths 16" - 20" and 120 gr. bullets. I have some TAC on hand (which I can also use on .308) but would like to try an alternative...
Favorite Powder - LR1955 - 03-18-2011
Goju Wrote:Checking to see what the favorite powder for the experienced Grendel reloaders is; specifically for barrel lengths 16" - 20" and 120 gr. bullets. I have some TAC on hand (which I can also use on .308) but would like to try an alternative...
GJ:
2520 has given me the best velocities and most consistent performance. Velocities are significantly higher than any other powder -- faster or slower. Some say velocity doesn't mean anything and with most cartridges this is probably true. However with the Grendel you are already starting out at the low end of the performance spectrum so further losses in velocity equate to major problems given some winds or a requirement to estimate ranges -- both past 300.
LR1955
Favorite Powder - RStewart - 03-18-2011
LR1955 Wrote:GJ:
2520 has given me the best velocities and most consistent performance. Velocities are significantly higher than any other powder -- faster or slower. Some say velocity doesn't mean anything and with most cartridges this is probably true. However with the Grendel you are already starting out at the low end of the performance spectrum so further losses in velocity equate to major problems given some winds or a requirement to estimate ranges -- both past 300.
LR1955
Same here with the 2520. I have tried H335, BLC-(2) and Varget, but all had significant drop in velocity over the 2520. YMMV.
Favorite Powder - bwaites - 03-18-2011
If you live in a very warm area, though, I've found 2520 to be temp sensitive.
Its probably turned into my favorite winter powder, but I have to reduce loads or blow primers in the summer.
Favorite Powder - txgunner00 - 03-18-2011
bwaites Wrote:If you live in a very warm area, though, I've found 2520 to be temp sensitive.
Its probably turned into my favorite winter powder, but I have to reduce loads or blow primers in the summer.
I've heard this from a number of sources. No experience myself though.
IMR 8208 has been working great for me. 100 NBTs & 123 SMKs. Good accuracy & velocity.
Favorite Powder - PA_Allen - 03-18-2011
txgunner00 Wrote:I've heard this from a number of sources. No experience myself though.
IMR 8208 has been working great for me. 100 NBTs & 123 SMKs. Good accuracy & velocity.
txgunner00,
Do you have some velocity and load data with IMR 8208 that you would be willing to share? The data on Hodgdon's site looks promising, but I haven't seen any real world data.
Thanks,
PA
Favorite Powder - michaelmew - 03-18-2011
If I recall from the old site, wasn't Hornady supposed to be releasing their secret blend of powders that would outperform all others? What ever happened with that?
Favorite Powder - RStewart - 03-18-2011
bwaites Wrote:If you live in a very warm area, though, I've found 2520 to be temp sensitive.
Its probably turned into my favorite winter powder, but I have to reduce loads or blow primers in the summer.
I live in Louisiana and the summers get quite hot. I'm working on a couple of ideas to keep my loaded cartridges cooler between rounds. Dealing with temperature sensitive powders is challenging, but if it was all easy, it wouldn't any fun.
I use a lot of Varget with my .223's and would really love to find a working load with it. But alas, it eludes me. It is very temperature neutral.
Favorite Powder - txgunner00 - 03-19-2011
PA_Allen Wrote:txgunner00,
Do you have some velocity and load data with IMR 8208 that you would be willing to share? The data on Hodgdon's site looks promising, but I haven't seen any real world data.
Thanks,
PA
123 smks - 28.6 gr - 2575 avg
100 nbt- 30gr- 2865 avg
I believe these are over book max but I worked up to them. No pressure signs for me. Ymmv
Favorite Powder - PA_Allen - 03-19-2011
txgunner00 Wrote:123 smks - 28.6 gr - 2575 avg
100 nbt- 30gr- 2865 avg
I believe these are over book max but I worked up to them. No pressure signs for me. Ymmv
Thanks txgunner00
BTW what is your barrel length?
Favorite Powder - noone - 03-19-2011
I have been using mostly W748. I have found a load of Tac that shoots to the same point of impact, so that is handy. Accuracy, and point of impact are the same, but usually, W748 is easier to find.
123 Scenar
CCI 450 primer
Lapua cases
2.260 C.O.A.L.
30.3 grains of W748 (30.5 is Max, so work up slowly)
I use this load in both 18, and 19.5 inch barrels.
Favorite Powder - RangerRick - 03-19-2011
I've had good luck with AA2520 too. I was just at a local gun store and saw a can of Hodgdon "Hornady SuperPerformance" anybody used that?
Favorite Powder - Hoot - 03-19-2011
PA_Allen Wrote:txgunner00,
Do you have some velocity and load data with IMR 8208 that you would be willing to share? The data on Hodgdon's site looks promising, but I haven't seen any real world data.
Thanks,
PA
From last Wednesday:
New Rifle
AA (ER Shaw) 24" SS Barrel .300 Neck
42 Degrees F.
New Hornady Brass
Remington 7 1/2 Primers
Nosler 100gr BT
2.27 COL
28.5gr IMR 8208XBR = 2701 fps Avg / SD = 12 best group of all that day's loads.
29.0gr IMR 8208XBR = 2738 fps Avg / SD = 6
29.5gr IMR 8208XBR = 2795 fps Avg / SD = 8
30.0gr IMR 8208XBR = 2821 fps Avg / SD = 5 light pressure signs
Hoot
Favorite Powder - Goju - 03-19-2011
Thanks for all of the valuable info. Regarding the prior comments to temperature sensitivity, which of the "Grendel" powders are least temp sensitive, and which are the most sensitive?
Favorite Powder - michaelmew - 03-21-2011
Goju Wrote:Regarding the prior comments to temperature sensitivity, which of the "Grendel" powders are least temp sensitive, and which are the most sensitive?
I'd like to know the answer to this as well. Does anybody know?
-michaelmew
Favorite Powder - txgunner00 - 03-21-2011
PA_Allen Wrote:Thanks txgunner00
BTW what is your barrel length?
20" satern
Favorite Powder - JohnOD - 03-21-2011
Goju Wrote:Thanks for all of the valuable info. Regarding the prior comments to temperature sensitivity, which of the "Grendel" powders are least temp sensitive, and which are the most sensitive?
I like Hodgon's "Benchmark" for the lighter projectiles
http://http://www.hodgdon.com/extreme.html
Favorite Powder - longdayjake - 03-21-2011
Well, I think it depends on what weight bullet you are using. For the lighter bullets a faster powder seems to give more velocity. I have also noticed that TAC has been temperature sensitive for me as well. I personally like the faster powders from my 20" barrel. AA2230 seems to be a good powder from my gun and TAC really hasn't performed as I expected it to.
Favorite Powder - bucktact6.5 - 03-22-2011
txgunner00 Wrote:I've heard this from a number of sources. No experience myself though.
IMR 8208 has been working great for me. 100 NBTs & 123 SMKs. Good accuracy & velocity.
I have had great luck with 8208 on the 6.5. It works well with 7.62 and 5.56 also.
Favorite Powder - BenchRider - 03-27-2011
95 gr Speer TNT HP - 30.0 gr Benchmark
100 gr Sierra Varminter HP - 28.0 gr A2460
123 gr Hornady Amax - 30.3 gr A2520
28" Satern 1:8.75 stainless barrel.