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"Collapsible" stocks - stanc - 11-08-2011
I always objected to people using "collapsible" when referring to telescoping stocks.
However, it's clear from this video that I was wrong. They really can collapse.
[video=youtube;zpbyUqhBUGw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpbyUqhBUGw[/video]
"Collapsible" stocks - YutYut - 11-08-2011
haha i saw this a while back. wonder what magpul had to say.
"Collapsible" stocks - OldCannon - 11-08-2011
Oh man, that hurt just to watch.
"Collapsible" stocks - QuadCam - 11-08-2011
YutYut Wrote:haha i saw this a while back. wonder what magpul had to say.
probably said " don't mortar your rifle with the stock extended!"
"Collapsible" stocks - txgunner00 - 11-08-2011
hmmm.... note to self. don't do that with my ctr.
I did something similar with my M240G once except I broke it clean off.
"Collapsible" stocks - LRRPF52 - 11-20-2011
I love that video. I just saw it last night...quality...
When I look at all the receiver end plates, Mr. Murphy whispers in my ear...."I will find a way to make that hurt you in ways you can only imagine..." I believe him, and have never used one on any of my blasters, especially since I always mount my sling at the rear of the stock, with the attachment point opposite my right hand preference, so I don't get choked out if I have to shoot left-handed.
Also, when you mortar the AR to clear Wolf ammo from the chamber after it has seized, collapse the stock (without any digits between that sling plate and the stock body ss ss ss ss ss ss), and impact the butt where the extension tube is, not the toe of the stock. You will most likely break the stock if you impact the toe, unless it's an original aluminum commando stock from the XM177 and 653 series, and then you will damage the aluminum receiver extension recesses for the stock plunger assembly.
"Collapsible" stocks - jwilson1985 - 11-21-2011
yah, the motor drill is not the greatest. Yet it is still used often. what worries me about it, is a rare slam fire 6" from my face
"Collapsible" stocks - LRRPF52 - 11-21-2011
jwilson1985 Wrote:yah, the motor drill is not the greatest. Yet it is still used often. what worries me about it, is a rare slam fire 6" from my face
You clear the magazine first. Case is fired already, hence the seized case in the chamber from expansion...no slam-fire possible if the mag is removed, as it should be when clearing any malfunction other than a tap rack bang.
"Collapsible" stocks - txgunner00 - 11-22-2011
Last weekend I had a case separate in my sbr and the next round got jammed in the chamber. Out of habit I went to mortar the rifle to clear the chamber but then this video flashed in my head. Collapsed the stock and cleared the roundno problem. Stan did a service to my fingers. Thanks!
"Collapsible" stocks - stanc - 11-22-2011
Cool. When I posted that, it never occurred to me it might actually benefit somebody.
"Collapsible" stocks - Texas Sheepdawg - 11-22-2011
What video? I don't see any link.
"Collapsible" stocks - QuadCam - 11-22-2011
jwilson1985 Wrote:yah, the motor drill is not the greatest. Yet it is still used often. what worries me about it, is a rare slam fire 6" from my face
no doubt! Have you ever mortared and unfired round that was stuck in the chamber. I have, and it is disconcerting to say the least.......especially whne you examine the extracted bullet/case and you see a light dent in the primer from the mortaring exercise!
"Collapsible" stocks - LRRPF52 - 11-22-2011
QuadCam Wrote:no doubt! Have you ever mortared and unfired round that was stuck in the chamber. I have, and it is disconcerting to say the least.......especially whne you examine the extracted bullet/case and you see a light dent in the primer from the mortaring exercise!
Light primer indent from the firing pin is from the bolt going into battery with a floating firing pin. The original Armalite AR15 & Colt Model 601's had problems with slam fires because the firing pin head had much more mass to it...enough so that it acted like an inertia-based firing system, especially in hot weather or with a warmed-up gun. They changed the firing pin head to a smaller size, and slam fires went away. Mortaring does not produce a firing pin indent on the primer.
"Collapsible" stocks - Clod Stomper - 11-25-2011
Yep, two big mistakes here. First, the stock should be in the shortest position, as already stated.
Second, it would never even occur to me to hold the extension/buffer tube while I was doing it. When I've had to "mortar" a round out of an AR chamber, I hold the fore end in one hand and pull back on the charging handle with the other. Otherwise, your hand is in the way of the charging handle even if the stock doesn't collapse on your fingers.
Am I wrong? I must be, because those guys just oozed tacticooool. Until the finger smash, of course.
Will
ETA: Oops. I just watched it again and it appears it was the hand pulling the charging handle that got caught. More understandable, but still, keep your fingers out of the way.