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What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - Slappy - 07-18-2014
Malinois and an XD9. BANG BANG!!
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - Dave Bob - 07-18-2014
Whatever I lay can lay my hands on......(depends on what room I'm in when the threat must be dealt with)
Dave
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - molar - 07-19-2014
BjornF16 Wrote:6.5 Grendel 10.5" SBR, 123 A-Max (SD=.252)
2200 fps/1322 ft-lbs; Max PBR 198 yds/933 ft-lbs
300 BLK 10" SBR, 110 V-Max (SD=.166)
2175 fps/1155 ft-lbs; Max PBR 186 yds/644 ft-lbs
Variable, where is your vote?!
My vote is on 300 BLK 8" suppressed with 125 gr TNT's. That is a nasty bullet of the 300 BLK and can be driven close to 2100 fps even out of an 8" barrel with Lil gun.
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - montana - 07-19-2014
Super sucky pic when they were still half grown pups:
![[Image: img115.jpg]](http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn291/Variable556/img115.jpg)
The female now:
![[Image: 68d829e4.jpg]](http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn291/Variable556/68d829e4.jpg)
She's about 95#.Beautiful Dobermans, sorry to hear about your male. I haven't seen any better than those. Your choice of kit isn't bad either.
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - Variable - 07-20-2014
montana Wrote:Beautiful Dobermans, sorry to hear about your male. I haven't seen any better than those. Your choice of kit isn't bad either.
Thanks man. Jayne (yes, after Jayne from "Firefly"LOL) was by far the best dog I've ever owned. He was my best friend. I had to put him down when he got wobblers. Sucks even more, I couldn't even clone a dog (money not-withsatanding) with wobblers. I'm not the kind of person to spend crazy money on animals, but I'd pay a very princely sum to have him back, even if it was just a carbon copy.
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - montana - 07-20-2014
Variable Wrote:Thanks man. Jayne (yes, after Jayne from "Firefly"LOL) was by far the best dog I've ever owned. He was my best friend. I had to put him down when he got wobblers. Sucks even more, I couldn't even clone a dog (money not-withsatanding) with wobblers. I'm not the kind of person to spend crazy money on animals, but I'd pay a very princely sum to have him back, even if it was just a carbon copy.
I hear you, science needs to get going on extending the life of dogs. Their short lives is the only negative part of these great animals. I cried like a baby when I had to put my best friend down. It can be rough.
Back to topic.
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - Variable - 07-20-2014
Well, I see one other person joined me in picking 6.5 Grendel in the poll at least. I'm surprised so few of us picked it
Shameful off topic aside:
![[Image: 30897ec639515bd7c38c6c93c385a127.jpg]](http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/30/89/7e/30897ec639515bd7c38c6c93c385a127.jpg)
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - KentuckyBuddha - 07-20-2014
I imagine most folks love the grendel in general they just figure for home defense over-penetration would be a problem without varmint-grenade-type pills. Most folks have pills that would work that way in 5.56 or 5.7x28 but not so much in 6.5. : shrug : Just a guess.
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - montana - 07-20-2014
Variable Wrote:Well, I see one other person joined me in picking 6.5 Grendel in the poll at least. I'm surprised so few of us picked it
Shameful off topic aside:
Perfect!
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - anubismp - 07-30-2014
Keltec Ksg 12 ga with a cheapie surefire light/vvtac combo. Honestly the dogs are a very good option. If you don't have something they specifically really want most bad guys will skip a house with a large dog. As soon as I get my yard fenced and a few things set up I think a dobie is in my future.
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - BjornF16 - 07-31-2014
I guess the title is lost on some of y'all:
[SIZE="4"]"Preferred home defense RIFLE caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup"[/SIZE]...LOL
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - explorecaves - 07-31-2014
BjornF16 Wrote:I guess the title is lost on some of y'all:
[SIZE="4"]"Preferred home defense RIFLE caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup"[/SIZE]...LOL
"rifle" is actually not part of the title if you want to get technical....
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - KentuckyBuddha - 07-31-2014
Bullpup is explicitly mentioned though! I reckon that weapon would fall neatly into that category if a fella wanted to be pedantic. : D
A shotgun is only referred to in caliber in Finland as far as I know. LOLz
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - BjornF16 - 07-31-2014
Suppressed RIFLE SBR, or Suppressed RIFLE Bullpup...lol
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - KentuckyBuddha - 07-31-2014
Still the slugs could be rifled. Just sayin'
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - BjornF16 - 07-31-2014
Still not a rifle caliber...LOL. But I could have used better grammar: "Preferred home defense rifle caliber: Suppressed SBR or Bullpup"
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - explorecaves - 08-01-2014
BjornF16 Wrote:Still not a rifle caliber...LOL. But I could have used better grammar: "Preferred home defense rifle caliber: Suppressed SBR or Bullpup"
Rifle caliber is subjective.... especially if it is a rifled shotgun barrel. If you are saying that just because of the diameter of the round, well larger diameter has been used effectively in the past:
![[Image: blunderbuss-shooter.jpg]](http://hoveysmith.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/blunderbuss-shooter.jpg)
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - dammitman - 08-01-2014
actually a rifle is a poor choice for home defence unless in a actual war i suppose. i chose other as its obvious that a 12 gauge pump shotgun is the very best home defence especially with all the pistol grip, short barrel and ammunition choices that are at hand. i only say pump as it will almost always work. my saiga has been mad eto be a non failing shotgun as well and i know i can count on it to deliver lead quite efficently, and in a humane mannor,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - cory - 08-01-2014
dammitman Wrote:actually a rifle is a poor choice for home defence unless in a actual war i suppose. i chose other as its obvious that a 12 gauge pump shotgun is the very best home defence especially with all the pistol grip, short barrel and ammunition choices that are at hand. i only say pump as it will almost always work. my saiga has been mad eto be a non failing shotgun as well and i know i can count on it to deliver lead quite efficently, and in a humane mannor,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Sorry man, but I completely disagree. IMHO it's the other way around.
What is your preferred Home Defense caliber, suppressed SBR or Bullpup - BjornF16 - 08-01-2014
cory Wrote:Sorry man, but I completely disagree. IMHO it's the other way around.
Concur. Meet the "Box o' Truth":
http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-3-the-shotgun-meets-the-box-o-truth/
http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-14-rifles-shotguns-and-walls/
Buckshot will still penetrate walls; birdshot not effective; 12 ga recoil significantly higher than 5.56/Grendel/300 BLK; you still have to aim with shotgun; 18" shotgun barrel still somewhat more unwieldily than 16" AR-15, etc.