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PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - Sticks - 11-01-2018

VASCAR2 Wrote:Since we’re talking about PSA 12” 6.5 Grendel builds here is mine next to my Tavor for size comparison. The Tavor has a 16” 5.56/223 barrel and 20 round Pmag in the well. I opted for A-2 grip and standard AR-15 trigger guard instead of Magpul grip and trigger guard. Both have QD sling swivels with Blackhawk two point slings. Seventeen round E-Lander in the magwell of PSA.

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Gotta find out what it is about Firefox that does not show photos.


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - VASCAR2 - 11-01-2018

I linked the photo to my Flickr account using bbc code.


Try clicking to this link Sticks.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/150966264@N06/45658674771/in/dateposted/


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - Rebels010 - 11-01-2018

I just ordered the complete upper with the 12 inch barrel. With the PSA10 code it was $252 with free shipping. Worth it to have a cheap plinker for wolf ammo or anything else. If she shoots, may replace my 18 inch as an option for hogs. My 18 is just a laser though.


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - King31 - 11-01-2018

I'm really excited to get a scope and get it dialed in. All of these reviews seem like it is plenty good enough to hunt with which is what I plan on doing. Really need to start looking into optics.


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - Sticks - 11-02-2018

VASCAR2 Wrote:I linked the photo to my Flickr account using bbc code.


Try clicking to this link Sticks.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/150966264@N06/45658674771/in/dateposted/

I double check sometimes using Internet Exploder and the pics show up. It's a Firefox issue.


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - Sturmgewehr - 11-04-2018

FireFox is fine for me. I can see the pics.
I have ad blocking software turned off (disabled) for this site.
Most issues I've had lately have been from ad blockers.
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PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - Sturmgewehr - 11-04-2018

I picked one of these up also. New to AR's and couldn't pass up the sale w/discount. Got an Andersen stripped lower last holiday sale for $35.
I also have a PA 1-6 ACSS I got on sale in sept. too.
I missed that the Shockwave Blade brace I got requires a tool to adjust. Soon as I saw V1 checked & V2 on the bag I knew something was up.
New stk or a folder..Hmmm
I was slowly buying parts for a 24" paper killer but this was just to cheap to pass up.


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - Sticks - 11-04-2018

Sturmgewehr Wrote:FireFox is fine for me. I can see the pics.
I have ad blocking software turned off (disabled) for this site.
Most issues I've had lately have been from ad blockers.
(1st post)
That did it. Thank you for the tip.


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - Nodak - 11-04-2018

Ordered a scope for mine. I found that red dots are not for me in most cases due to my astigmatism. Should be here along with mount on Tuesday. Ordered a ADE ADVANCED OPTICS NEW 1-6X28 FFP. I wanted to try one and found a good deal and cantilever mount on Amazon. If it sucks, I can just send it back.


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - depletedyourcranium - 11-05-2018

So far not super thrilled with the accuracy of my 12 inch PSA kit. At 100 yards I'm getting 2.5 to 3 inch groups with the Hornady American Gunner and 3 to 3.5 inch groups with the Hornady Black. This is shooting from the prone off a bipod and after about 40 rounds and a cleaning. My 20 inch ARP barreled grendel gets about 1.75 inches with the AG ammo and about .75 inch with the Hornady Black on a good day.

I was hoping to hunt whitetail out to 200 yards with this setup but now I'm rethinking it. I'm not sure I would be comfortable shooting past 100 yards as it stands right now. I'll probably just suck it up and hunt with the 20 inch and relegate the 12 inch to close range/HD/Wolf ammo chucking.


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - Sticks - 11-05-2018

Check out the basics on the upper. Barrel nut tight, no contact with the handguard against the gas block, muzzle device is timed (if applicable), sighting attachment is tight and forward against the recoil lugs on the rail....


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - depletedyourcranium - 11-05-2018

I'm pretty meticulous about setting up my rifles so it's nothing basic. I haven't checked the torque on the barrel but yet, but I'm probably going to move that barrel to a slick side receiver that I have so I can do it then.

I think this is just another example of you get what you pay for when you gamble on cheap barrels. Maybe 75% are good shooters, but 20% are mediocre and 5% may just be unshootable. This is definitely a mediocre barrel.


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - A5BLASTER - 11-05-2018

depletedyourcranium Wrote:I'm pretty meticulous about setting up my rifles so it's nothing basic. I haven't checked the torque on the barrel but yet, but I'm probably going to move that barrel to a slick side receiver that I have so I can do it then.

I think this is just another example of you get what you pay for when you gamble on cheap barrels. Maybe 75% are good shooters, but 20% are mediocre and 5% may just be unshootable. This is definitely a mediocre barrel.

Before you do anything else, take the muzzle device off and shot a few rounds without it and see what it does.

I would be willing to bet if you redid the muzzle device with a accuwasher and lil to no tourqe, lapped the recover face,bedded the barrel, gas tube, gas block and reset the barrel nut tourqe too 35 inch pounds, it would shot much better groups.


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - biodsl - 11-05-2018

depletedyourcranium Wrote:This is definitely a mediocre barrel.

A5BLASTER Wrote:Before you do anything else, take the muzzle device off and shot a few rounds without it and see what it does. I would be willing to bet if you redid the muzzle device with a accuwasher and lil to no tourqe, lapped the recover face,bedded the barrel, gas tube, gas block and reset the barrel nut tourqe too 35 inch pounds, it would shot much better groups.

In other words, build your own with a better barrel.

I know the PSA kits are inexpensive, but to quote Larry Pottersfield from Midway, "Only accurate rifles are interesting".

I'm interested in hearing the accuracy results from a decent sampling of the 12" Green Mountain group buy barrels.


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - depletedyourcranium - 11-05-2018

Deer season here starts Saturday. Yesterday was my last real chance to shoot and sight in before the opening. I'm not wasting anymore time on that upper until after the season. Now I'm gonna have to take time off work in the middle of the day to confirm the zero on my ten pound 20 inch rifle... which I now get to lug around instead of the 12 incher all season. Guess better than borrowing a rifle.

I didn't buy the PSA upper kit because I wanted to spend hours stripping it down and building it back up correctly if they made a mistake. IMO any off the shelf AR upper should hold 2 moa with decent ammo, and that's all I was expecting this one to do. Either the barrel is crappy or the assembly is crappy, either of which is on PSA. I would consider sending it back, but it was on clearance and I dont know what their policy is on clearance items. They would probably warranty it but at this point I would rather not sit and play the waiting game for months and waste ammo testing it out to see if it's fixed yet or not.

I'm just gonna strip it down and rebuild it over Christmas, and it will shoot however it ends up shooting. If it has to remain a close ranger steel case pinker, so be it. With an AR15 I would rather deal with accuracy issues than reliability issues, I can adjust my range according to the accuracy.


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - DDRanch - 11-05-2018

It wouldn't hurt to at least contact them to see what they have to say,


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - King31 - 11-06-2018

depletedyourcranium Wrote:Deer season here starts Saturday. Yesterday was my last real chance to shoot and sight in before the opening. I'm not wasting anymore time on that upper until after the season. Now I'm gonna have to take time off work in the middle of the day to confirm the zero on my ten pound 20 inch rifle... which I now get to lug around instead of the 12 incher all season. Guess better than borrowing a rifle.

I didn't buy the PSA upper kit because I wanted to spend hours stripping it down and building it back up correctly if they made a mistake. IMO any off the shelf AR upper should hold 2 moa with decent ammo, and that's all I was expecting this one to do. Either the barrel is crappy or the assembly is crappy, either of which is on PSA. I would consider sending it back, but it was on clearance and I dont know what their policy is on clearance items. They would probably warranty it but at this point I would rather not sit and play the waiting game for months and waste ammo testing it out to see if it's fixed yet or not.

I'm just gonna strip it down and rebuild it over Christmas, and it will shoot however it ends up shooting. If it has to remain a close ranger steel case pinker, so be it. With an AR15 I would rather deal with accuracy issues than reliability issues, I can adjust my range according to the accuracy.

Just wondering. Are you using the same scope on both of your guns?


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - depletedyourcranium - 11-06-2018

Ruled out the scope and mount already by using it on another .223 AR15. It is either something real funky with the flash hider like A5BLASTER said, something with the barrel to receiver fitment, or a crummy barrel. The most likely culprit (and least easy to fix) is the barrel, I believe.


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - meatsweats - 11-06-2018

Basically would take under 30 minutes to take off the flash hider and handguard (2 bolts) check gas block and check barrel torque specs. If even 1/2 hour. Hell I’d be willing to do it for you! My bet is that the barrel nut is over torqued. Regardless of the money spent you owe it to the gun to check it out.
MS


PSA 12" 6.5G Pistol Kit Opinions - depletedyourcranium - 11-06-2018

meatsweats Wrote:Basically would take under 30 minutes to take off the flash hider and handguard (2 bolts) check gas block and check barrel torque specs. If even 1/2 hour. Hell I’d be willing to do it for you! My bet is that the barrel nut is over torqued. Regardless of the money spent you owe it to the gun to check it out.
MS

Checking the specs isn't the problem it's shooting the gun that I don't have time to fool with. Even I pull that barrel off and it's torqued on 100 lbs I ain't got time to be able to take it out and shoot groups to see if it makes a difference before the season starts. Once the season starts I ain't gonna miss a morning or afternoon in the field to waste time fiddling with this thing when I've got other guns I can use. Until the season starts I've got a hellatious work week to finish everything so I can take off next week to hunt, as well as get the rest of my geared prepped.

Ain't got no time for scrubs. I don't 'owe the gun' anything. After November when I get some time and I check everything out, if it turns out it is something other than the barrel causing the problem I will issue the upper a formal apology for saying it was 'crummy'. Until then it can sit in the safe and think about the ammo it made me waste.