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Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - BjornF16 - 02-25-2014
GMinor Wrote:Bro... Come over to my house. Bring your upper and we will get it spotless without brushes or anything.. Then you can go retest.. AND you can check out my super sweet Grendel...
What!?
You're not going to share your secret?
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - GMinor - 02-25-2014
Patch-Out, its no secret.. its my #1 bore cleaning product.
Also a 50/50 mix of kroil and butches bore shine is pretty freaking amazing..
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - Drifter - 02-25-2014
Initial results with my black-nitrided Lilja 16.5" barrel have been favorable. Here's a 5-shot 100-yard group using Hornady factory Amax:
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Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - lilharcher - 02-25-2014
Very legit Drifter.....nice work!
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - Tedward - 02-25-2014
Drifter Wrote:Initial results with my black-nitrided Lilja 16.5" barrel have been favorable. Here's a 5-shot 100-yard group using Hornady factory Amax:
Wow, maybe it has something to do with the shooter too. I hear people ask , "will it shoot 1/2"MOA?". I guess the answer is yes with the right person behind the trigger.
Great job! Also what scope, trigger and anything else to help identify the help you got to achieve that. Experience is in there we know....Again, awesome....
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - montana - 02-25-2014
Not only does your rifle shoot but it looks like you can too. Outstanding group, I would be very happy with that rifle.
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - NugginFutz - 02-25-2014
Drifter Wrote:Initial results with my black-nitrided Lilja 16.5" barrel have been favorable. Here's a 5-shot 100-yard group using Hornady factory Amax:
In a word - Shweet!
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - cory - 02-25-2014
Nice work. Now drifter you know we're going to need to see some pictures of that weapon.
I hope my cerakoted barrels come back half as sharp as that black nitrate looks. Where did you get it done and how much did it run you if you don't mind me asking.
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - Adam Lilja - 02-26-2014
cory Wrote:Nice work. Now drifter you know we're going to need to see some pictures of that weapon.
I hope my cerakoted barrels come back half as sharp as that black nitrate looks. Where did you get it done and how much did it run you if you don't mind me asking.
I too am curious
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - Drifter - 02-26-2014
Thanks guys. I get plenty of practice, but a shooter can't do it unless the barrel is up to the task. Kudos to Lilja.
Black Nitride process was done by H&M Metal Processing:
http://www.blacknitride.com/whatis.html
Cost was $100, which included return shipping. I had the barrel back in 10 days, which means they turned it around in 3 days.
Before sending it to H&M, I cleaned the unfired barrel, then polished the bore with JB Bore Bright. Cleaned and polished again when I got it back.
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - cst - 02-26-2014
Did u get a chance to chrono the rounds yet?
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - Drifter - 02-26-2014
~2425 fps with factory Amax.
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - Hank Rearden - 02-26-2014
Drifter,
Did I miss the barrel length? Profile ?
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - Drifter - 02-26-2014
304 profile
It measures ~16.5" from bolt face to muzzle.
IIRC, it weighs ~1.75 lbs.
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - Hank Rearden - 02-26-2014
Fantastic velocity from a 16" with factory loads. Do you think that the Nitride has increased it's speed? I know you don't have a before and after but I'm still curious on your thoughts.
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - Drifter - 02-26-2014
Somewhat out of character for me, I really didn't research it too much. I don't know if the process has any real effect on accuracy or velocity. I knew that I wanted the barrel to be black, and figured the process wasn't too much more expensive than getting it blasted and coated. Knowing that the process hardens the metal, I tried to simulate break-in via the bore polishing, as some people seem to think that a break-in (via shooting) is best beforehand. Others suggest that the barrel should be clean and unfired for the treatment. I don't know which is best, so I sorta split the difference. I'm encouraged by the results so far.
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - Adam Lilja - 02-26-2014
Dang they claim the coating will bring a 10" group at 500 meters down to a 4" group. That's quite a big difference.
Consistent velocities too.
http://www.blacknitride.com/rifle.html
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - Drifter - 02-26-2014
Adam Lilja Wrote:Dang they claim the coating will bring a 10" group at 500 yds down to a 4" group. That's quite a big difference.
http://www.blacknitride.com/rifle.html
Nice find. Velocity increase is also indicated.
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - cory - 02-26-2014
:? They nitrated the inside of the barrel too?
Lilja Group Buy Barrel Accuracy - Drifter - 02-26-2014
cory Wrote::? They nitrated the inside of the barrel too?
Yes, the whole thing gets the treatment. When I got the barrel back, it took a few dozen patches through it before they started coming out clean.