LR1955 Wrote:DJ:

So, do you think that no AR was used? Or that no handgun was used? Or that both were used?

Given the number of people who witnessed the incident, and the number of people involved in the investigation, it would be impossible for the US Government to alter evidence or coerce the witnesses to the extent that every one of them, to include every single LEA who was there, would say the same story to this day. One of those people would have blown the whistle on any cover up or tampering with evidence.

The information age has made it harder for a government in a fee society to bullshit its population.

LR1955

LR1955 Wrote:DJ:

So, you don't believe those kids were killed by the perp using guns. Despite all of the witnesses.

Then, what killed those people?

LR1955

LR1955 Wrote:Dave:

Thanks -- you finally made it clear.

One guy using guns killed those people.

No argument from me on that. The other stuff? Maybe. You give the Government way too much credit for being able to pull off something without screwing it up.

LR55

LR1955 Wrote:Nukes:

I read the article. I have no clue what this guys point was. I think he had problems choosing which voice he wanted to believe.

Maybe you can state his theme in one, clearly written sentence?

LR1955

cory Wrote:Impossible how exactly do you come to that conclusion? The impossible has been done many times in history and will be done many more times in the future, I hope.

LR1955 you assume that one of the LEOs would of blown the whistle. While I'd like for your assumption to be true, there's nothing to back it up.

You also assume that all the LEOs knew exactly what was going on. In that large chaotic scene what percentage of the LEOs do you assume had a big picture view of the situation? I'm not sure how LEOs operate, but I'm assuming it's similar to military in that orders where issued and the individual LEOs followed those orders and performed their duties to the best of their abilities.

What I'm getting at is that I'm assuming only a handful of LEOs know exactly what happened that day. In a sector of our society that doesn't belief in the 2nd Amendment, what do you think the priority of those LEOs is to spread the truth to the American people or to protect their families rather it be physically or just protecting what little bit of normalcy they've found in their lives since the tragedy?



After reviewing hours of video footage from that day and combining that with the sealing of the evidence in what should of been an open and shut case, I believe, I'm sorry, I know something isn't what it seems and we're being lied to. What they're lying about I don't know for sure.

I will guarantee you this, best case scenario in an effort to push their attacks on the 2nd Amendment actors were hired to portray parents who had lost their kids in that tragedy.


Does anyone recall a post on the forum from a member talking about running into a politician at a local shop buying reloading tools? They had mention the politician had said something along the lines of watch for an attack on the ability to reload. I'm not making any accusations at this point. However; if it comes out that reloading powder was responsible for these bombs and the washington begins an attack on reloading supplies. :/ Again it's way to early to make any conspiracy accusations and there's no evidence of any conspiracy at this time.

That being said I wouldn't put anything past the libtards and the leadership of this country.

Right now as it stands, in my opinion this was a terrorist attack committed by a cell that had been in place for some time. A last minute green light was given when a target of opportunity was realized. If that was a case this was a direct result from our reaction to Benghazi and the offer attacks that day.

My prayers go out to all those affected by this attack!

Quote:CNN Correspondent John King, a Boston native, said authorities have a clear video image of a “dark-skinned male” placing a bag at the second bomb site outside of the Forum restaurant on Boylston Street and then leaving the area before that explosion.

LR1955 Wrote:Cory:

Aren't you also making an assumption that someone in the investigation would not blow the whistle if something was being concocted by the government? Or, an assumption that guys who are in law enforcement obey their orders without moral scruples? Another assumption you are making is that all of the LEA guys involved in the Newton thing are anti-gun and all would willingly lie or deceive in the investigation to lend credence to more anti-gun legislation. That stuff is way too complicated to ensure success of a cover up or conspiracy. Too many variables for it to succeed.
I'm making the assumption that it's possible. How many times in history has organized crime infiltrated the local PD? That conspiracy has happened many times in our history. If that conspiracy is very possible, then why is it not possible in Newtown?

You claim we are being lied to. Therefore you must have some ideas or notions about the lies. What are they?
[COLOR="red"]I could get into this but the fact is I could present you all the facts in the world and not persuade you. The only thing that will convince you is allowing you to go find the truth for yourself. I would only suggest you look at the facts from a big picture perspective and not quarantine them to the individual incident.
And more importantly Bwaites is correct, we've highjacked this thread enough and need to get to the issue at hand the Boston attack.[/COLOR]

As for actors portraying parents. Of all the things that are the easiest to disprove, it would be someone getting on TV lying about being a parent of one of the kids that was killed. The left doesn't need that type of lie to succeed in banning guns so why risk their credibility?

I am not sure who did the bombing at the Marathon. It has all the hallmarks of Islamic jihadists as it killed innocent people and terrorists want to inflict terror on the public, not necessarily the government. However, it also has the markings of anarchists (both left and right) as it is on tax and Patriots day.
I completely agree.

Either way, a huge group of people in a public place that stretches for 26 miles is an ideal target.

I believe this was a deliberate, well planned, and well executed operation. Too many things happened well for it to be fly by night 'Allah Willing' type of thing. The bombers got through the cordons, placed the bombs without being seen, and then detonated them in a coordinated effort. And, most telling is that the bombs actually went off, and did so with enough force to kill and savagely maim people.

This was no target of opportunity from my perspective.
[COLOR="red"]Too many things did happen well, unfortunately. However, it could of been much worse. Multiple bombs that were planted never went off, Thank God! The bombs that were made, while effective, they were relatively poorly constructed. They seemed to have been construct in a hasty manner using materials that were easy to acquire in a short amount of time. That's why I believe it was target of opportunity attack. I do believe if it was a cell planted in boston they would have planned multiple attacks in detail, but only on paper. The individuals would could of had full understanding of what would need to be done well in advance. I'm suggesting they were given the green light to proceed with a short window to prepare.
These IEDs had all the markings of an IED used in Iraq and Afghanistan, which were Engineered and funded by Iran. If this was a jihadist attack IMO Iran was the key player. However, it'll be a trail a mile long that'll be needed to link them.[/COLOR]

LR1955

LR1955 Wrote:Dave:

So, you do not believe the nut job at Newton killed those kids with a firearm?

Or, you don't believe he was the only guy who pulled the trigger?

LR1955

stanc Wrote:Was just watching FauxNews , where they mentioned something to the effect that the marathon was honoring the victims of the Newtown shooting. It's not completely inconceivable that a pro-gun radical might have targeted the race to demonstrate that banning AR15s and large-capacity magazines won't prevent mass murder. If that was indeed the purpose, the target makes perfect sense, especially since the event is televised.

TheOTHERmaninblack Wrote:Now that's quite a stretch. It would require not only a gun rights terrorist, but a loony one as well.

I suppose that it IS possible, but, man, that connection is thin!

Nukes Wrote:The fox is coming to investigate the henhouse:
http://rt.com/usa/police-israel-investigation-boston-009/

TheOTHERmaninblack Wrote:Now that's quite a stretch. It would require not only a gun rights terrorist, but a loony one as well. Might as well say that the JFK library was targeted because his murder helped to usher in the 1968 gun control act.

I suppose that it IS possible, but, man, that connection is thin!

Variable Wrote:Why would a right wing extremist bomb a marathon? A deep hatred for cardiovascular fitness???

I'd expect a right winger to go after a far more symbolic target than that.

It fits the Jihaddi MO much better in my opinion. Just my .02 though. I'm not up there.

Deer Hunter Wrote:CNN's already said it might be right wing extremist. We're at War with the World and these pricks are already pointing their fingers at Americans, specifically we Gun Owners and Christians. SOB's. Have you seen all the DHS bomb proof SUV's? They'll be moving them shortly into a neighborhhod near you.

Trooper Wrote:Left is hoping that the Boston Bomber is a white male

It fits their agenda. It makes them feel better about themselves when they look at you and say how much smarter they are. That what they believe makes them a superior human being.
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/16/lets_hope_the_boston_marathon_bomber_is_a_white_american/
http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/16/actor-blames-boston-attack-on-gun-culture-2nd-amendment-must-go/

It would be funny if the individual(s) finally arrested are 1) white, 2) male, 3) converted to Islam, and 4) heavily involved in democrat party politics.....