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Jefferson Outdoor products. - Highbrow - 04-17-2020
Mine came today. Excellent finish. Tight but perfect fit with original stock. Feeds great. Rail has to go or be modified.
Jefferson Outdoor products. - tdbru - 04-17-2020
by rail i assume you meant optics rail, correct? ya, my fingers/thumb is also too big to fit underneath my optics rail too. but the neat thing about that oberndorf latch is that it is so easy to flip the rifle magazine up, pop the latch, put the rounds in the magazine and snap it closed and you're good to go. but to each their own. if very light weight is what you're after look and see if talley makes a, hmmm, what do you call them, where the base and ring is a single assembly. one for the front and one for the back. that might give you a bit more room between the bottom of the scope and the magazine opening to push them in from the top.
-tdbru
Jefferson Outdoor products. - HokeyPokeyKid - 04-17-2020
tdbru Wrote:by rail i assume you meant optics rail, correct? ya, my fingers/thumb is also too big to fit underneath my optics rail too. but the neat thing about that oberndorf latch is that it is so easy to flip the rifle magazine up, pop the latch, put the rounds in the magazine and snap it closed and you're good to go. but to each their own. if very light weight is what you're after look and see if talley makes a, hmmm, what do you call them, where the base and ring is a single assembly. one for the front and one for the back. that might give you a bit more room between the bottom of the scope and the magazine opening to push them in from the top.
-tdbru
The Talley lightweight rings work perfectly, I don't use them only because I prefer vertically split rings and have quite a few sets of Warne rings on hand already.
Jefferson Outdoor products. - Highbrow - 04-18-2020
I have an EGW 20 MOA rail. The plan is to cut it in place. Have done that for other rifles and it works well.
Jefferson Outdoor products. - Steelisreal - 04-21-2020
Hey @HokeyPokeyKid - any update on the 223 version of the floorplate/mag assembly? What is the final capacity? I see it is an option on your website now. Does that mean you made some and they sold through already, or it's there in anticipation of the units being completed?
The Howa Mini is very popular down here in NZ. Great value for the quality compared to similar options at the price. The mag issues are always the point of discussion on the local forum!
Jefferson Outdoor products. - HokeyPokeyKid - 04-21-2020
Steelisreal Wrote:Hey @HokeyPokeyKid - any update on the 223 version of the floorplate/mag assembly? What is the final capacity? I see it is an option on your website now. Does that mean you made some and they sold through already, or it's there in anticipation of the units being completed?
The Howa Mini is very popular down here in NZ. Great value for the quality compared to similar options at the price. The mag issues are always the point of discussion on the local forum!
I am still testing the final design, I haven't sold any yet.
Once I am satisfied with the reliability of the design, the capacity and availability will be updated on the website.
I do as much testing as I can to try and anticipate any weaknesses or improvements.
I am anxious to get them to market as well, I have a waiting list to clear...
Jefferson Outdoor products. - ckp - 04-22-2020
And you need to get on to the detachable box magazine version. No pressure though.
Jefferson Outdoor products. - HokeyPokeyKid - 04-23-2020
Now that my new parts are getting out into peoples hands I have created a page that will hopefully help people install their new internal box magazine. If you can't get it to work please don't hesitate to contact me here or through the contact page on my website.
If anyone has any tips that they think I should add to the linked page, please let me know.
https://www.jeffersonoutdoor.com/installation?p
Jefferson Outdoor products. - FloorPoor - 04-26-2020
HokeyPokeyKid Wrote:Now that my new parts are getting out into peoples hands I have created a page that will hopefully help people install their new internal box magazine. If you can't get it to work please don't hesitate to contact me here or through the contact page on my website.
If anyone has any tips that they think I should add to the linked page, please let me know.
https://www.jeffersonoutdoor.com/installation?p
Mine took about 30 seconds to install. I turned the rifle upside down on a pad, removed the the two screws, removed the factory bottom "metal", dropped your excellent replacement part in, and tightened the screws.
The only issue I had was that a couple of times when loading the magazine, #2 & #4 rounds would get stuck on the left side of the action on the outside of the feed lips, rather than load in the mag. Simply releasing the pressure by opening then closing the latch released the cartridge. I quickly figured out that if I canted the rifle slightly to the right when pressing the cartridges in, this would not happen. Feeding (and loading) is much better than the factory magazine, but the spring seemed a bit stiff. Also, the feed lips were leaving light scratches on the brass. I left the rifle in the safe, with a full magazine for a couple of days, and the spring loosened up a little, resolving the issue. Overall, I'm very pleased with your aftermarket magazine.
Jefferson Outdoor products. - Troutguide - 04-26-2020
Is the flush mount 4 + 1 in the chamber or will it not work that way? They look great btw.
Jefferson Outdoor products. - HokeyPokeyKid - 04-26-2020
Troutguide Wrote:Is the flush mount 4 + 1 in the chamber or will it not work that way? They look great btw.
It can work that way, there is room in the box to hold 4 under the closed bolt.
Jefferson Outdoor products. - tdbru - 04-27-2020
i get 4 in the magazine on mine. so if you do 1 in the chamber you get 5 ready to go of course. really please with the fit/finish/functionality of the JO flush bottom metal. light years ahead of the factory offering. i cracked the factory plastic bottom metal just by tightening the action screws. i though to myself at that moment, "you gotta be kidding...." and seemingly every time i grabbed the factory setup rifle to carry it one handed, the magazine fell out.... the JO flush bottom metal solves those problems for me. looks elegant. definitely carries one handed much nicer. when i got the product in the mail i trial fit it to the action and said to myself, hmm.. these tabs must go inside the frame rails... now that there's an installation page, i was right. but it was pretty obvious also.
i have a EGW 20moa rail on mine, so finger clearance is nil between the bottom of the rail and the opening of the action. so i flip the rifle over, pop the latch, and load it that way if i need to fill up the magazine. and that's fine with me. now i'm waiting to get to the range to test some loads.......
-tdbru
Jefferson Outdoor products. - FloorPoor - 04-27-2020
Troutguide, Yes, this kit is 4+1.
I'm pleased with mine. The factory
mag set-up makes the entire rifle feel like cheap garbage. This upgrade is a definite upgrade. Worth the price.
Jefferson Outdoor products. - Troutguide - 04-27-2020
Excellent, when I get some cash freed up I will order one.
Jefferson Outdoor products. - rookie7 - 04-28-2020
If a person was going to sit at a bench or prone 100% of the time then the factory dbm and mag may work.
However, for anything dynamic and especially hunting its composition and design is pure garbage.
Obviously the person who designed it has never hunted a day in their life.
Plus, LSI doesnt want to hear it, and will never change.
The good news is HPK owner from Jefferson Outdoors and Oregon Gunsmithing have made a quality bdl floorplate for us to choose from. I spent my money with HPK and have the JO one.
I like that HPK genuinely wants feedback from his customers if anything goes wrong and for future improvements if needed.
Im not saying anything negative about OG - I just havent talked with them, and from what I have read on here they do quality work too.
If you load the JO model from the bottom you need to pay attention to how the rounds are staggered. If you dont have them correctly staggered you will only get 3 in instead of 4. Position them correctly and 4 is a go.
Jefferson Outdoor products. - HokeyPokeyKid - 04-28-2020
I am already working on making it easier to load, some of the springs in the lot I purchased for the magazine are real thumb busters when trying to top load.
I hope to possibly make some minor magazine box changes to make top loading easier, if everything works as planned it will be a fully backwards compatible upgrade.
Then on to finishing production of the 223 version and a single shot only edition for the few who have asked.
Jefferson Outdoor products. - ckp - 04-29-2020
Would someone be kind enough to post a couple of pictures, specifically the top of the floor plate, and looking up into the magwell from the bottom with floorplate
released. Thanks
Jefferson Outdoor products. - Troutguide - 04-30-2020
Okay ready to order and its sold out. Any idea when they will be back in stock? Cash does not sit around in my pocket very long.
Jefferson Outdoor products. - HokeyPokeyKid - 04-30-2020
Unfortunately I have no date on being in stock again, I have most of the parts I need for another run but my magazine spring supplier is currently not shipping anything! They are shut down due to covid-19 so I am on the hunt for another vendor.
Jefferson Outdoor products. - Troutguide - 05-09-2020
Well nothing but impressed! Got a dm earlier this week from HPK and he said he had three floor plate units in stock if I wanted one. Paid the invoice and it was shipped that evening. Got the piece yesterday. Literally took 45 seconds to install and Im ready to go. Very nice looking and makes my mini look like a real gun now. Spring is a little tight as expected but will just take some adjusting to it. Its marinating with four in it right now to loosen up a bit. Thanks Jefferson Outdoor for such a great upgrade!