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Bear Creek rises to the top - Kswhitetails - 08-08-2018
I'm beginning to think that BCA's strategy is to keep sending folks junk returns until they get tired of dealing with the issues and just go away. I wonder what their doing with the returned barrels? Here, this guy may have better luck with this one that the last guy did, see if he sends it back too...
IDK, I'm not one to bash a company for a legitimate mistake, but from reports of knowledgeable and truthful owners, this just isn't the case. They seem to have gone from "oops, here let me make that right", to "oh well, there's got to be a good one in here somewhere". Not my kind of business model.
The thing is, if they were $75 dollar barrels then I'd say that's to be expected, oh wait...
Bear Creek rises to the top - A5BLASTER - 08-08-2018
Kswhitetails Wrote:I'm beginning to think that BCA's strategy is to keep sending folks junk returns until they get tired of dealing with the issues and just go away. I wonder what their doing with the returned barrels? Here, this guy may have better luck with this one that the last guy did, see if he sends it back too...
IDK, I'm not one to bash a company for a legitimate mistake, but from reports of knowledgeable and truthful owners, this just isn't the case. They seem to have gone from "oops, here let me make that right", to "oh well, there's got to be a good one in here somewhere". Not my kind of business model.
The thing is, if they were $75 dollar barrels then I'd say that's to be expected, oh wait...
I'm still waiting on my refund for the m4 cut 16 inch grendel barrel they make I got off classic for just over 40 bucks.
Yea I know bottom of the sludge in the barrel pricing but I figured they couldn't mess up a barrel so bad that it would be good enough for 100 yard and closer hunting and self defense, well boy howdy was I wrong.
Gas port cut off center
Short throat
Tight chamber from the coating/scratching brass all the heck
Extention had to be made out of some very pore steel due to it having a very bad nick in it and simple hand chambering rounds caused anouther bad nick.
So back it went for refund.
Don't really blame classic firearms but dang BCA y'all should be ashamed of yourself for producing such junk and passing it off as a good product.
I personally will never tell someone to ever spend money on their products.
I sure hope that the trash they are making doesn't put a stain on the grendel in the eyes of the shooting public.
I wonder if BBB could do something to shut them down for not producing products that even come close to meeting spec and for producing products that or unsafe to the consumer.
Bear Creek rises to the top - ErikS - 08-08-2018
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Not all BCA barrels are junk. Just saying. There is a ton of hate for the company but not all bad.
Bear Creek rises to the top - ported45 - 08-09-2018
Except lousy seems to be winning out in the odds of getting a good barrel from BCA.
Bear Creek rises to the top - ported45 - 08-10-2018
A5BLASTER Wrote:I'm still waiting on my refund for the m4 cut 16 inch grendel barrel they make I got off classic for just over 40 bucks.
Yea I know bottom of the sludge in the barrel pricing but I figured they couldn't mess up a barrel so bad that it would be good enough for 100 yard and closer hunting and self defense, well boy howdy was I wrong.
Gas port cut off center
Short throat
Tight chamber from the coating/scratching brass all the heck
Extention had to be made out of some very pore steel due to it having a very bad nick in it and simple hand chambering rounds caused anouther bad nick.
So back it went for refund.
Don't really blame classic firearms but dang BCA y'all should be ashamed of yourself for producing such junk and passing it off as a good product.
I personally will never tell someone to ever spend money on their products.
I sure hope that the trash they are making doesn't put a stain on the grendel in the eyes of the shooting public.
I wonder if BBB could do something to shut them down for not producing products that even come close to meeting spec and for producing products that or unsafe to the consumer.
Don't know how long you have been waiting on the refund, but I already have my refund back.
I will say, their product is often junk, but I have had nothing but stellar experience with their Customer Service!!
Bear Creek rises to the top - A5BLASTER - 08-10-2018
ported45 Wrote:Don't know how long you have been waiting on the refund, but I already have my refund back.
I will say, their product is often junk, but I have had nothing but stellar experience with their Customer Service!!
Their customer service is doing ok for now.
Will hold finally judgment when I get my refund, but for now it has been ok.
Bear Creek rises to the top - Splatt - 09-03-2018
Finally shot my replacement barrel today.
I used Hornady ag ammo.
Used an old hard drive as a target to get zero'd, and then put 6 rounds on paper.
11/2 inches horizontal, by 1 inch or so, vertical. They were shots 15 thru 20.
That'll work. Didn't expect benchrest groups.
Now to see what reloads can do.
![[Image: 20180903_174953.jpg]](https://s33.postimg.cc/wseymlhrz/20180903_174953.jpg)
Bear Creek rises to the top - Splatt - 09-16-2018
My above group was shot with a cheap Simmon's 2-7x32 scope.
Next outing, I'll try to actually shoot for accuracy.
Here's my Grendel.
![[Image: 20180916_113250.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/Bv3z2VbX/20180916_113250.jpg)
Bear Creek rises to the top - cwlongshot - 09-18-2018
UPDATE on my second barrel.
ALL GOOD! I picked up a Atlas bi pod form a friend looking to unload and had to add a forward rail, only I didn't have a M-LOC rail only KEY-MOD's so I stopped and picked one up and the guy offered to install for me if I had the rifle. So sure, he did it in front of me. Well I have a sling stub mount for a Harris bi pod mounted and its screws where hard into the gas block!! So much that they marked the block. Immediately I worried about accuracy as I had proven multiple loadings with the barrel like this... All those range trips, shooting and loading time wasted...
Range trip with the rifles preferred loading of RL15 and a 123 SST proved I was worried for no reason.
The rifle shot just under 1.75 MOA @ 200
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Mostly touching @ 100
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and all touching @ 50.
![[Image: BB683383-57D4-44F8-8788-0CBF527AF7F8_zpsjrfnbkmn.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/25-45%20Sharps/MIKES%20Sharps/BB683383-57D4-44F8-8788-0CBF527AF7F8_zpsjrfnbkmn.jpg)
Overall, for 69$ and a little waiting I have a serviceable hunting rig. Strongly considering a 450 Bushmaster upper form BCA...
CW
Bear Creek rises to the top - bj139 - 09-18-2018
If it is a 16" for deer hunting it is good to go.
Every time you spend twice as much you only get a small improvement in precision.
Who would choose a 16" barrel to shoot 1000 yards anyway?
The thing that surprises me is these barrels seem far better than factory bolt action rifle barrels from the 1970s.
Bear Creek rises to the top - hill37 - 09-18-2018
I remember gun rag reviews from the 60s. The writers were happy with anything less than 1.5" at 100 yds. Less than an inch and they kept the rifle.