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Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - Popeye212 - 03-09-2018
It passed the House going to the Senate. After the Supreme Court ruling I am sure it will be challenged. Just remember to donate to the NRA on the 24th
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - 98Z - 03-09-2018
stanc Wrote:OTOH, there reportedly have been no mass shootings in Australia since their AWB was implemented...
There have been mass killings,though, IN Australia,SINCE their weapons ban.
They just picked different tools to do their job...
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - 1075 tech - 03-09-2018
Re: Guns in schools. I went to a small private school in upstate NY. There were kids from the city as well as the suburbs and farms. In my high school years, I regularly drove my truck to school with a rifle in the rear window gun rack. Just because. The school sponsored a hunter's safety course. The instructor wanted everyone to bring a shotgun and 3 rounds. The principle said to keep our guns in our vehicles (if we drove to school) until it was time for the class. If parents brought us or we road the schoolbus in, we had to put them in the principles office. The practice shots were done into swamp at the edge of the soccer field.
Those were the days.
But they were also the days of the teachers being able to paddle students. And generally, you got another when you got home.
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - 98Z - 03-09-2018
1075 tech Wrote:But they were also the days of the teachers being able to paddle students. And generally, you got another when you got home.
That's the truth, right there. That's what it needs to come back to, also, because punkass kids now think they RUN the place. They need to respect those in authority positions (teachers, parents, LEO), and they need to respects elders.
Until we MAKE them respect that - they won't. The ass-whoopin's are WARRANTED, and those same asswhoopin's are DESERVED. Kids don't run this land - they need to be brought up with enough morals and common sense to RUN this land. So far, in these past couple generations, they have nothing but FAIL on their record...
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - stanc - 03-10-2018
98Z Wrote:There have been mass killings,though, IN Australia,SINCE their weapons ban.All of which demonstrates two things:
They just picked different tools to do their job...
1. An assault weapons ban cannot stop mass killings. (Which we already knew, from incidents in other countries.)
2. An assault weapons ban apparently can stop mass killings with assault weapons. (In Australia, anyway.
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Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - 98Z - 03-10-2018
stanc Wrote:All of which demonstrates two things:
1. An assault weapons ban cannot stop mass killings. (Which we already knew, from incidents in other countries.)
[B]2. An assault weapons ban apparently can stop mass killings with assault weapons[/B]. (In Australia, anyway.
Maybe in "Stan Statistics" here, which is all you care about. Even with your carefully caveated "in Australia" blurb.
Assault weapons bans CANNOT stop mass killings. Proof:
Ran from 1994 to 2004:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban
Happened in 1999 - in the middle of that "Assault Weapons Ban..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - 98Z - 03-10-2018
Did the Clinton AWB prevent that, Stan? Did it prevent the Columbine shooting?...
If the AWB WORKED, then it would have prevented it. If the AWB FAILED, then we saw what we saw, and it's now history in the record books.
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - stanc - 03-10-2018
98Z Wrote:Ha! "Stan Statistics." I like it! Thanks!stanc Wrote:All of which demonstrates two things:Maybe in "Stan Statistics" here, which is all you care about. Even with your carefully caveated "in Australia" blurb.
1. An assault weapons ban cannot stop mass killings. (Which we already knew, from incidents in other countries.)
2. An assault weapons ban apparently can stop mass killings with assault weapons. (In Australia, anyway. )
98Z Wrote:Assault weapons bans CANNOT stop mass killings.Yup. That's almost exactly word-for-word what I said in point #1 of my previous post (quoted above).
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - 98Z - 03-10-2018
So, what's your stance here, Stan? Give me your opinion. Or your inference. Or whatever.
Does an Assault weapons ban work? Answer honestly. Just so I know what side of the fence you're on.
"Does an Assault Weapons Ban Work?" is the only question I'm asking you.
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - stanc - 03-10-2018
98Z Wrote:Did the Clinton AWB prevent that, Stan? Did it prevent the Columbine shooting?...Unfortunately, although "we saw what we saw," you are failing to realize one very critical fact: Except for a few named guns, the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban did not ban assault weapons; it banned certain cosmetic features.
If the AWB WORKED, then it would have prevented it. If the AWB FAILED, then we saw what we saw, and it's now history in the record books.
AR15, FAL, and AK variants remained legal to manufacture, buy, and possess, provided they did not incorporate any of the banned features. And all assault weapons legally possessed prior to 1994, remained legal to possess.
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - stanc - 03-10-2018
98Z Wrote:So, what's your stance here, Stan? Give me your opinion. Or your inference. Or whatever.It seems to have worked in Australia.
Does an Assault weapons ban work? Answer honestly. Just so I know what side of the fence you're on.
"Does an Assault Weapons Ban Work?" is the only question I'm asking you.
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - 98Z - 03-10-2018
I'm out. You argue pure BS, and it seems that's all you want to do.
Enjoy, Stan.
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - stanc - 03-10-2018
98Z Wrote:I'm out. You argue pure BS, and it seems that's all you want to do.:confused: Your statement is illogical.
All I did was:
- Agree with you on one point.
- Note a fact that you overlooked.
- Answer the question you asked me.
At no point did I argue with you.
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - Bigs28 - 03-10-2018
So the bickering just moved to this post.......
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - bj139 - 03-10-2018
Last week Stan made my blood boil until I realized he was training us in being able to argue against the Dems side.
Thanks, Stan.
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - stanc - 03-10-2018
bj139 Wrote:Last week Stan made my blood boil until I realized he was training us in being able to argue against the Dems side.Always glad to help.
Thanks, Stan.
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - wraith1516 - 03-10-2018
stan the comma is there because big damn thumb small damn buttons
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - StoneHendge - 03-11-2018
stanc Wrote:It seems to have worked in Australia.
Australia is surrounded by an ocean. It doesn't have a porous southern border controlled by Tasmanian cartels. I won't bring up demographics so nobody call me the R word.
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - stanc - 03-11-2018
StoneHendge Wrote:Australia is surrounded by an ocean. It doesn't have a porous southern border controlled by Tasmanian cartels.Not sure how you think that is at all relevant. Most, if not all, of the mass shootings in the US were done either by citizens, or foreigners here legally.
StoneHendge Wrote:I won't bring up demographics...Weren't the majority of mass shooters white males?
StoneHendge Wrote:...so nobody call me the R word.Republican?
Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons - StoneHendge - 03-11-2018
stanc Wrote:Not sure how you think that is at all relevant. Most, if not all, of the mass shootings in the US were done either by citizens, or foreigners here legally.
If guns were illegal, only criminals would have guns. And criminals in the US would be well armed thanks to the Mexican cartels dealing in AKs. In Australia, somebody might actually go to jail for illegally dealing arms. In the US, an Attorney General did it with impunity. And actually has the gall to talk about running for President.
Weren't the majority of mass shooters white males?
Mass shootings are a tiny percentage of overall gun violence. Mass shootings are a fraction of the gun related murders in Chicago each year. We all know the demographics of overall gun violence.
Republican?
Nope - my name is not Ray Cyst. Yet libtards call me that for some reason when I cite statistics related to the demographic and racial composition of gun violence offenders.
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