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Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - Randy99CL - 10-26-2017
Safety Guy Wrote:I finally figured I would just call them about a military discount. Got someone on the phone first try. They told me to email them a copy of my DD214 (retirees will know what this is). Got an email back like 5 minutes later stating the discount was added to my account (you have to create an account with them first). I placed an order for a 20" SS non fluted upper and the 10% discount showed up in my "cart". With this upper and an upgraded complete lower from PSA, I'll be all in at <$550.
Wow, thanks for this info!
I emailed sales@bearcreekarsenal.com on 10/15 to ask about a military discount and haven't received a reply yet.
To what address did you email your DD214?
I've been waiting to order an upper until I hear of any discounts.
I saw a new video just a few days ago that said that 704tactical gets 5% off and free shipping. Does the 10% Veteran's discount include free shipping?
I'm on a small VA pension and need to save every penny I can.
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - com-guy - 10-27-2017
I built a BCA rifle using one of their 6.5 Grendel complete uppers. 16" M4 profile with key-mod fore end. It is a budget build intended for a friend's boy to use hunting. I assembled it 2-3 months ago but just got out to the range with it tonight to do a quick zero so he could youth hunt with it this weekend. I fired 3 shots at 25 yrds. (no pics) to get close. Then moved to 100 yds and fired 2 quick shots to see where i was. Using the mil dots i measured to where zero should be and fired three slow shots. it was getting dark and this was all there was time for, but here was the result of the three shots. Looks promising and can't wait to get back out with it to shoot some more groups and stretch it out to distance....
http://rickscs.com/images/target.jpg
ETA: Was shooting Hornady ELD-M ammo.
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - VASCAR2 - 10-27-2017
That’ll definitely work com-guy! A lot of these cheaper uppers are nothing to be ashamed of. I think it boils down to the luck of the draw on how good of barrel you get. Kind of like the old saying you don't want a car built on Monday or Friday. Everbody has a lemon slip through, not a big deal as long as the manufacture/vendor stand behind what they sell.
Thanks for posting.
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - com-guy - 10-27-2017
VASCAR2 Wrote:That’ll definitely work com-guy! A lot of these cheaper uppers are nothing to be ashamed of. I think it boils down to the luck of the draw on how good of barrel you get. Kind of like the old saying you don't want a car built on Monday or Friday. Everbody has a lemon slip through, not a big deal as long as the manufacture/vendor stand behind what they sell.
Thanks for posting.
If it does shoot that good.... It was windy and was just three shots. We've all had that amazing group going with 2-3 or even 4 shots, then open up by the time we finish the five or ten shot group. I was using bags on a bench though...
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - PVBoom - 10-27-2017
calvarez Wrote:We're shopping the low price leader. I don't expect great service, great product, and lowest price all together. Of all those, I'll let the service go since I likely can work around it.
Bingo, I see no reasonability in expecting Cadillac service at Yugo pricing.
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - Sputnik - 10-27-2017
And yet BCA provides all!
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - Safety Guy - 10-27-2017
Randy99CL Wrote:Wow, thanks for this info!
I emailed sales@bearcreekarsenal.com on 10/15 to ask about a military discount and haven't received a reply yet.
To what address did you email your DD214?
I've been waiting to order an upper until I hear of any discounts.
I saw a new video just a few days ago that said that 704tactical gets 5% off and free shipping. Does the 10% Veteran's discount include free shipping?
I'm on a small VA pension and need to save every penny I can.
Call them and ask where to send your proof of service. Like I said, email responses seem spotty at best, seems phone calls are where it's at with Bear Creek.
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - Randy99CL - 10-27-2017
Update...Thanks for the help people!
Called them, got the addy of where to send my docs and emailed them a photo of my VA Healthcare card and they gave me the discount. And for some reason the price had dropped; the $367 yesterday was $345 today.
Ordered SKU# UASC6.5RHB20185R(MF)-(15)MLOK
BCA Side Charging AR-15 Complete Upper Assembly, 20" 4150 Black Nitride Heavy Barrel, Straight Flutes, 6.5 Grendel Type II, Rifle Length Gas System, 1:8 5R Twist w/ 15" MLOK
Really excited! I want the side-charger because I owned a couple of Mini-14s and now three 10/22s and that's where the handle should be, 20" barrel, straight fluting, Nitrided with 5R rifling.
Took the $10 shipping so don't expect to get it for a while. No hurry cause I can't order the lower for a couple of weeks.
Couple of other things: If you're a Vet you should check with your local VA about getting the Vet ID card. Good at stores, etc. so you don't have to carry a copy of your DD214.
And if you might want to buy from Bear Creek you really have to sign up for their emails. I say that because the daily emails often have product that is hard to find on their site. The specific upper I ordered doesn't show up on a normal search but was advertised in one of their emails.
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - Frontier Gear - 11-06-2017
I've been using BCA for about a year now on various AR15 and AR10 builds. I'm a vendor and they have been my go-to supplier for barrels. The quality and the accuracy of the barrels are very good, especially for the price. They are a major supplier of barrels for Anderson Mfg. I've used their 308 (shot a bear with one this year), 300 blk, 223 Wylde, 7.65x39 and 5.56mm barrels in my builds and sold many to customers. They also offer a lot more barrels than what they list on their web site. I just recently used one of their 6.5 Grendel barrels for my first Grendel build. It is 18" straight fluted SS with 5R rifling. So far it is a good shooter. I only have about a box and a half trough it yet, but it is shooting about 1 inch groups at 100 yards when resting over the hood of a jeep (Hornady Black).
As a personal preference, I prefer side charging uppers. I've probably used/sold over 20 of the BCA side chargers (even for .458 SOCOM) and they all have worked flawlessly.
They do tend to be slow in their shipping times and charge a fair amount for shipping (more than others).
I think that the Odin barrels are better, but for the price you can't beat the BCA stuff. BCA also has a really good selection of 6.5 Grendel barrels.
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - WaltherWhite - 11-07-2017
I have been very pleased with the phone contacts I have had with them. Called three times for ideas on an AR build and always got fast well informed answers. I asked and Part of the reason they test with steel ammo is it is cheap. Saves money that can go to bettering the product. Part of the reason it is not recommended is wear is greater with steel cased.
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - tim300wsm - 11-12-2017
these look like a great deal but I'm a little nervous to roll the dice on such a cheap upper. does anyone have 1 with 1000+ rounds through it. I would hate to buy one and have it shoot like shit or break after 500 rounds.
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - Randy99CL - 11-12-2017
tim300wsm Wrote:these look like a great deal but I'm a little nervous to roll the dice on such a cheap upper. does anyone have 1 with 1000+ rounds through it. I would hate to buy one and have it shoot like shit or break after 500 rounds.
I received my BCA upper last week and am really happy with it; everything looks good and it operates flawlessly. Nothing looks or feels cheap, there are no flaws in fit or finish and it seems to be just as good as any other name-brand upper that I've checked out.
I wanted a side-charge receiver and the next least-expensive is the bare AR Stoner at Midway for $230.
I paid just over $300 (with Vet discount) for the complete upper: BCA Side Charging AR-15 Complete Upper Assembly, 20" 4150 Black Nitride Heavy Barrel, Straight Flutes, 6.5 Grendel Type II, Rifle Length Gas System, 1:8 5R Twist w/ 15" MLOK
Again, I like everything about this upper and couldn't be happier; it was an amazing deal.
There are lots of reviews of BCA barrels and most seem to like them. I've seen a couple people complaining about them who are making as much noise as possible.
I won't get to fire mine for a few weeks and after a decent break-in period if I'm not happy with the accuracy I will replace the barrel with a brand known for accuracy but to be honest I don't expect to have to do that.
And even if I have to spend another $200-$300 for a barrel that's about what many vendors are charging for an upper that isn't any better than this one.
Just My Opinion.
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Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - calvarez - 11-12-2017
I had been shooting cheap Wolf in my 20" BCA upper, and groups were rather crappy. I did some pre-hunt sighting last week with Federal Fusion, and my 200 yard group was 1.5" across. I was using a typical range bench and my rifle bag as a rest/support.
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Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - Frontier Gear - 11-13-2017
tim300wsm Wrote:these look like a great deal but I'm a little nervous to roll the dice on such a cheap upper. does anyone have 1 with 1000+ rounds through it. I would hate to buy one and have it shoot like shit or break after 500 rounds.
My buddies at LWS and Axis MFG make full autos with BCA barrels. They really put them to the test.
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Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - Dcommoncents - 11-13-2017
tim300wsm Wrote:these look like a great deal but I'm a little nervous to roll the dice on such a cheap upper. does anyone have 1 with 1000+ rounds through it. I would hate to buy one and have it shoot like shit or break after 500 rounds.
My sample size is small, probably around 120 rounds so far, but as shown by the targets I posted above the results from my BCA upper have been quite promising. Since I fixed my broken buffer issue, it has run 100% flawlessly using my AA elander mag. I'm not a barrel wear expert, but I can't see the accuracy degrading between now and 1k rounds, particularly since the barrel is black nitrided, unless perhaps the nitriding process was not done properly. I haven't heard any reports of that though.
In my opinion, admittedly based upon my limited experience with BCA, I would say don't worry about it. All recent reports from those who have actually seen and shot BCA barrels have been positive. Whatever issues the company or its predecessor had before look to be resolved. And as Randy pointed out, there's really not too much risk given the low price, which may not last if BCA continues to gain traction and improve its reputation.
I hate sounding like a BCA fanboy -- I'm not and have no affiliation with the company or anyone who does -- but I have just been impressed with the high value products it seems to be putting out and want to support that effort.
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - calvarez - 11-13-2017
Dcommoncents Wrote:I hate sounding like a BCA fanboy
We're just reporting on products we're happy with. The fact that the price/value is great just adds to that. I have two BCA uppers so far (6.5G and 5.56), love both, and have not had a single issue with either.
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - tim300wsm - 11-13-2017
well I guess I will give them a shot when the upper I want is back in stock.
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - Dcommoncents - 11-13-2017
tim300wsm Wrote:well I guess I will give them a shot when the upper I want is back in stock.
I don't think you'll regret it. (No warranties express or implied, haha).
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - Dcommoncents - 11-13-2017
tim300wsm Wrote:well I guess I will give them a shot when the upper I want is back in stock.
I don't think you'll regret it. (No warranties, express or implied, haha). By the way, I noticed i didn't mention before that my groups were with Hornady black. Haven't shot anything else out of it but have some wolf on the way.
Bear Creek Arsenal Complete Uppers - calvarez - 11-13-2017
I forgot to add that after my great group with the Fusion ammo, I went to Hornady Custom and the group size was double, in the same place, back to back. So Fusion is my deer load now.