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Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Dt219 - 02-24-2022
Ok thanks. I bought the barrel from them in March last year. I willl see what they say.
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Rosecrans1 - 02-24-2022
Well it's almost a year so I wouldn't screw around getting on the phone to them. They "should" make it right by you. Lord knows times are NOT tuff in the firearms business so they certainly aren't losing anything by making you happy. Even the "good ones" make lemons!!
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Dt219 - 02-24-2022
I spoke with Carson briefly this morning. He asked for pictures of the brass so I sent him some and some with the calipers on for measurements. Will keep you guys posted
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Happy2Shoot - 02-24-2022
What other problems did you need solved?
EDIT to add
Earlier you said you had trouble contacting them.
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Dt219 - 02-24-2022
The gas port is not in the center of the barrel. Well its not lined up perfectly with the alignment pin that goes in upper reciever. Its canted, its not a big deal but I expected a little more for $767 sent to lilja
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - lazyengineer - 02-24-2022
Dt219 Wrote:The gas port is not in the center of the barrel. Well its not lined up perfectly with the alignment pin that goes in upper reciever. Its canted, its not a big deal but I expected a little more for $767 sent to lilja
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Bring your Kid to Work Day; gone bad? This is not the strongest brand endorsement thread. You're sure it's a Lilja barrel, right?
If I were them, I'd be blowing up your phone to get that thing back and replaced. And turning that one into a tomato stake, before you start posting photos with their brand logo on it, and that off-center gas-port, next to those scary looking Tomorrow's-Kaboom casings.
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Dt219 - 02-24-2022
Its just my bad luck. Its all over me it seems. Not to mention the chatter marks up and down the barrel you can feel with your fingers. All Liljas might be like that but it doubt it. Oh and the fluting is so sharp Im pretty sure I could cut my fingers on it if I tried. Have not heard back from Carson at lilja either. I will guess they are still bad busy
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Rosecrans1 - 02-25-2022
That just doesn't sound like Lilja at all. I know most firearms manufacturers and their parts suppliers were buried with orders during the height of the CV19 marathon and it's possible this barrel was a 12th hour Friday night special. It's just not like anything I've seen from them.
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Dt219 - 02-25-2022
I just hope they decide to let me send it in and for them to look about replacing it. It does shoot great but if the chamber is out of spec its dangerous. I have never had a piece of brass come apart so far. Im a left handed shooter makes me a little more nervous
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Klem - 02-25-2022
If the reamer is not exactly square with the bore then it's going to ream a cone. The Grendel profile is already a mild cone (see SAAMI blueprint), no doubt to aid extraction. But if the reamer goes in even slightly offset then the cone at the base is going to be more severe. That's what it seems like to me - too wide at the base, but still accurate. Regardless of accuracy, case life and safety are an issue - plus if the chamber was square to the bore it might even be more accurate.
Gas port drilled out of alignment and noticeable is extraordinary for that price.
Keep us posted please - Be interesting to know what happens.
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Dt219 - 02-25-2022
I will. Im going to give them a couple days which should be enough time for them to look at my pictures and call back Monday
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Dt219 - 02-25-2022
Got an email around lunch said send it in he would take a look at it.
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - BowChamp - 02-26-2022
lazyengineer Wrote:?
Bring your Kid to Work Day; gone bad? This is not the strongest brand endorsement thread. You're sure it's a Lilja barrel, right?
If I were them, I'd be blowing up your phone to get that thing back and replaced. And turning that one into a tomato stake, before you start posting photos with their brand logo on it, and that off-center gas-port, next to those scary looking Tomorrow's-Kaboom casings.
I'd be using it as a hemroid depth gauge on who ever let it out of the factory in this condition!!!
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Dt219 - 02-26-2022
Removed the barrel this afternoon. At the opening of my chamber Im getting .447 repeatedly. A new unfired brass dropped in the chamber I can take my finger and move the case around (it wiggles). I can look through the chamber with a flash light and to me the chamber does not look like its in the center of the bore or vise versa. Im sure they have a way of seeing what Im seeing ??
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Dt219 - 03-09-2022
Lilja recieved the barrel Thursday March 3rd. See how long it takes them to smoke it over.
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Dt219 - 03-22-2022
Update today from lilja email . Carson claims the first thing he done was check the chamber dimension. He said sammi specs for a 6.5 grendel has a base diameter of .4437. He said my fired brass measured .4445. He said while its slightly over sammi specs he would not call it oversized. As far as the machine marks goes He said they send out all barrels like that with the chatter marks in the barrel he called them contour marks and his dad and him decided the barrels look better that way. He said he could polish them out if I wanted before he sent the barrel back. I replied since neither of my other 2 grendel barrels caused brass to look like that and he said it was slightly out of spec that I loved how it shot but did not want that barrel back for safety reasons, and I would not feel comfortable selling the barrel and the buyer have the same issues or worse have a case separate. Will let horde know what happens next. What say you ?
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - lazyengineer - 03-22-2022
Dt219 Wrote:Update today from lilja email . Carson claims the first thing he done was check the chamber dimension. He said sammi specs for a 6.5 grendel has a base diameter of .4437. He said my fired brass measured .4445. He said while its slightly over sammi specs he would not call it oversized. He said they send out all barrels like that with the chatter marks in the barrel he called them contour marks and his dad and him decided the barrels look better that way. He said he could polish them out if I wanted before he sent the barrel back. I replied since neither of my other 2 grendel barrels caused brass to look like that and he said it was slightly out of spec that I loved how it shot but did not want that barrel back for safety reasons, and I would not feel comfortable selling the barrel and the buyer have the same issues or worse have a case separate. Will let horde know what happens next. What say you ?Only hearing your interpretation of course. But that doesn't sound like the best initial conversation. There must be a misunderstanding on the stated "it looks better" comment regarding an internal dimension no one would ever look at. Either that, or a fairly amateur blow off attempt to avoid replacing it?
Regarding the offer to polish, that will just increase the size even more.
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Klem - 03-22-2022
All very strange.
I would have thought the safety issue with the spent brass would be reason enough to swap, no questions asked - how it shoots is irrelevant.
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - dammitman - 03-22-2022
unfortunenatly this kind of thing is why 6.5 grendel is not as popular as it might have been,,,,,,,its just not ever gonna be because of these things
Whats wrong ? Chamber, brass, dies - Dt219 - 03-22-2022
Those marks up and down the barrel is not chamber related. Its the finish on the barrel while contouring it. He said him and his dad said they finish all ar15 barrels like that