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The USA is not California......BUT.....a lesson from a Californian. - LR1955 - 01-24-2021
Stevil:
I am banning you permanently for insulting me in your BC message.
You may own a firearm but you are a Democrat who is stupid enough to go on a conservative web site and antagonize its members with your leftist 'Demospeak'.
Democrats are not the friends of gun owners or the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
So, I am doing to you what your ilk does to us. Throwing you off this forum.
LR55
The USA is not California......BUT.....a lesson from a Californian. - LR1955 - 01-24-2021
Guys:
This thread is open again.
Advice to those of you who are Democrats here. If you want to gloat over Trumps defeat and tell us how great Democrats are, your situational awareness is lacking.
If you want to have a civil discussion about firearms and even the 2A, rock on, but the instant I sense you are propagandizing for the Democrat Party, you will be history.
LR55
The USA is not California......BUT.....a lesson from a Californian. - Sinclair - 01-24-2021
LR1955 Wrote:Guys:
This thread is open again.
Advice to those of you who are Democrats here. If you want to gloat over Trumps defeat and tell us how great Democrats are, your situational awareness is lacking.
If you want to have a civil discussion about firearms and even the 2A, rock on, but the instant I sense you are propagandizing for the Democrat Party, you will be history.
LR55
Amen, Brother! I am sick to death of walking on egg shells so as to not offend those amongst us who have such thin skins when it comes to criticism of their values and beliefs, but no regard to other peoples feelings. The 1st and 2nd Amendments are the corner stones to our freedoms. Without them we would become just peasants whose only existence would be through the charity which is granted, reluctantly, by the ruling class.
FYI, Amen is derived from ancient Hebrew and means something like "and so be it" and has no connotation to gender!
The USA is not California......BUT.....a lesson from a Californian. - grayfox - 01-24-2021
Definitely +1! The lib dream is elitists rule and all the rest are serfs, and rules apply only to the ruled-over class! We have often said on here that once the 2A is out of the way the 1A (and the rest of them) would also be denied... we are seeing that very thing begin to be in reality.
The USA is not California......BUT.....a lesson from a Californian. - LRRPF52 - 01-26-2021
Today, the UT State legislature is debating HB60, which is Permitless Concealed Carry.
We passed it years ago, only to have the Governor veto it. He was considered one of the most Conservative Governors in the US, but lost my respect after that.
Any man that assumes he has a right to tell another human being how, when, where, or if they will manage their personal protective posture is a predator in-disguise.
The funny thing is that the only reason the UT legislature even brought that bill previously to the floor and passed it was because one of them was out shooting, LE made contact with them out in the foothills for some reason, and noticed that their jacket was partially concealing a handgun.
The LEO issued a citation for carrying without a permit, which incensed the politician, who then went back to the Legislature and took it to committee. Pro-freedom representatives said theyve wanted to do a no-permit CCW bill anyway, so it went from committee to the House and Senate and passed, only to have Governor Herbert veto it, saying, I think the current system works fine the way it is.
Under the current system, a human being in the State has to jump through all these bureaucratic hoops with the State, fingerprinting and registering themselves with the Bureau of Criminal Investigations, in order to ask permission to carry a defensive firearm on their person discreetly, and pay a fine to exercise that privilege, even though the Second Amendment forbids government from infringing on that right.
The USA is not California......BUT.....a lesson from a Californian. - biodsl - 01-26-2021
LRRPF52 Wrote:The funny thing is that the only reason the UT legislature even brought that bill previously to the floor and passed it was because one of them was out shooting, LE made contact with them out in the foothills for some reason, and noticed that their jacket was partially concealing a handgun.
The LEO issued a citation for carrying without a permit, which incensed the politician, who then went back to the Legislature and took it to committee.
As they say over at Instapundit "People are conservative with what they know best." And libertarian with what they want most.