Kswhitetails Wrote:Mel -

For your game, you're way beyond the run of the mill rack barrel. You should absolutely be checking out PF and looking at Krieger, Lilja, and Bartlein. All 3 are far beyond what you're looking at money wise, but you're far beyond the envelope of "typical" or rack Grendel game. You'll be very disappointed with anything Stoner or BCA for sure. I say that with a bit of chasing experience of my own. You're welcome to avoid my input, it'd be expensive as far as AR barrels go. You're just chasing the wind though, without at least giving yourself the very best equipment you can muster.

You'll spend it eventually, start up front with the pain, the fun comes quicker and lasts longer.

Good luck.

Kswhitetails Wrote:I've read that in Grendel, you just won't gain much in the way of velocity beyond 24, which is already extremely rare. Not many of them get built, because they don't do much more than the 20s. In your case though, that extra FPS would absolutely be worth the investment I think. It'd be up to you.

I can tell you, a heavy long barrel changes the game. It's like shooting a missile rather than a rifle. Harder to explain than that. The recoil impulse becomes more linear, more of a ting than a bang... hard to explain.

A good - fantastic - brake would be well worth the investment. A Fat bastard or similar maybe... Hellfire? IDK...

You'd want the rest SOLID... it's expensive to build this right. Huge billet receiver, maybe a DPMS slick side would be of good use though too... Definitely a good bi-pod, ATLAS or better.

Jewel trigger. Light break no take up. Light as in oz, not lbs...

Finally, LAPUA brass. You'll thank yourself when you start pushing your loads. Which you should do with an absolute abundance of caution, this isn't a SOCOM...

IDK man, I'm intrigued. You're already proving the push, and putting good work out. Now, you just need to build the amazing stick and push. Unfortunately, this is where the effort to do so becomes exponentially more consuming... time and money. Way more investment for sure.

Good luck! You're obviously enjoying yourself, and are proving it to work. I say go for it all.

Kswhitetails Wrote:I've read that in Grendel, you just won't gain much in the way of velocity beyond 24, which is already extremely rare. Not many of them get built, because they don't do much more than the 20s. In your case though, that extra FPS would absolutely be worth the investment I think. It'd be up to you.

I can tell you, a heavy long barrel changes the game. It's like shooting a missile rather than a rifle. Harder to explain than that. The recoil impulse becomes more linear, more of a ting than a bang... hard to explain.

A good - fantastic - brake would be well worth the investment. A Fat bastard or similar maybe... Hellfire? IDK...

You'd want the rest SOLID... it's expensive to build this right. Huge billet receiver, maybe a DPMS slick side would be of good use though too... Definitely a good bi-pod, ATLAS or better.

Jewel trigger. Light break no take up. Light as in oz, not lbs...

Finally, LAPUA brass. You'll thank yourself when you start pushing your loads. Which you should do with an absolute abundance of caution, this isn't a SOCOM...

IDK man, I'm intrigued. You're already proving the push, and putting good work out. Now, you just need to build the amazing stick and push. Unfortunately, this is where the effort to do so becomes exponentially more consuming... time and money. Way more investment for sure.

Good luck! You're obviously enjoying yourself, and are proving it to work. I say go for it all.

A5BLASTER Wrote:Mel you need a spotter? Lol.

Kswhitetails Wrote:A good - fantastic - brake would be well worth the investment. A Fat bastard or similar maybe... Hellfire? IDK...

Kswhitetails Wrote:The brake at that point is about making recoil linear and almost non existent. At the bullet weight and velocity Mel is running things, it becomes more important than we would usually tend to discuss here. Mel has proven he's capable, and willing to push the envelopes, in my opinion. A long HB Grendel with no brake would be incomplete in my mind, the same way an ELR rifle on a bigger scale is, and for the same reasons. The suppressor would surely help here, but it adds a new dynamic set of variables to the system, and makes me worry about too much leverage on the barrel for an AR15 upper. Especially a Stainless and Inconnel can like my own. His I think are aluminum - and Titanium to come...

Really though, in the semi-auto, there's less to be gained from a brake. However, I still personally would forego the suppressor for the brake. It'd clean up the end of the rifle, and let you tune the harmonic to a T. That's harder to do without a direct thread suppressor. I'm not sure what Mel has planned there, I'm assuming a QD, but could be wrong.

Old Bob Wrote:I got a billet side charging upper from PF. The bore through this receiver is tight... had to thermal fit my Wilson Combat 20" barrel.

https://www.precisionfirearms.com/m8/2%20PF%20Billet%20Side%20Charge%20Upper%20Receiver--pf-billet-side-charge-upper-receiver.html

mel Wrote:ty
were on the site did u find that i just went threw looking for the uppers and cant find them wanted to see if they had a left side charging handle one

still havent heard back from anyone else i sent emails to on barrels , was really hoping to hear back from upr with that bolt action upper
i may give deadshot barrels a try good feedback about them on facebook in the elr shooting groups