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Does a muzzle brake really make a difference? - Michael-95037 - 05-18-2019
HuntTXhogs Wrote:Muzzle brake: Better to have and not need , than need and not have
It’ll cost you a couple hundred dollars and time to thread the barrel if you decide later you need it
Why are you hung up on a Wilson Combat barrel and Qcomp?
If you need something now there are many other comparable options...
Good point about the muzzle brake and threaded barrel. Thanks. I got a really good deal on the Wilson combat barrel. 25% off so I only paid $214 for the 18" threaded barrel (normally around $285). If I want to change it and go with the 20", it's another $15 bucks. I've used Wilson Combat barrels in the past and liked the performance they gave me, they're not too heavy, and I like the way they look. I'm not particularly hung up on the Q-comp. It's what Wilson has, so I thought I would use it unless I found something I like better.
Does a muzzle brake really make a difference? - Double Naught Spy - 05-18-2019
Muzzle brakes tend to do one or two things, limiting muzzle climb and limiting rearward recoil. Some do more of one and less or none of the other. I like brakes that help control muzzle climb. Whether or not one 'needs' a break is very subjective to the particular user. Beyond that, while something may not be needed, it certainly may still be beneficial.
Quote:I didn't think it would be a problem to shoot without hearing protection.
No unsuppressed centerfire rifle is safe to shoot without hearing protection, brake or no brake.
Quote:I hunt with every one of my rifles and I can't stand hearing protection in the woods where I need to hear a slight twig break or distant sounds.
Wear electronic hearing protection. You buy the right ones and not only is your hearing protected, but the mics pic up more noise than you would be able to hear otherwise - double benefit.
Hearing damage is cumulative over time and insidious in that you probably won't notice it slowly happening.
Does a muzzle brake really make a difference? - Michael-95037 - 05-18-2019
grayfox Wrote:You can also get a soft rubber pad for the buttstock, there's a magpul kinda "foam-like" that works well on the CTR stocks... about $20 IIRC.
Grayfox, Thanks for all the info. What's a CTR stock? I plan to use a Leaper UTG Pro Model 4/15 stock just because I had it laying around. I have one on my 5.56x45. It's not my favorite stock, but it works. Do you know if anyone makes a pad for that Leaper stock?
Double Naught Spy, I agree 100%. I use electronic hearing protection all the time. Hunting, target shooting, it doesn't matter. I find I can hear more and have hearing protection. No reason to not use them. BTW, I love your videos. Nothing quite like fresh pork!
Does a muzzle brake really make a difference? - grayfox - 05-18-2019
CTR is Magpul's name for one of its adjustable carbine styles... triangular shape and a locking lever for the adjust mechanism - tightens up the stock on the buffer tube. I have a few and they are pretty usable.
Does a muzzle brake really make a difference? - CaptnC - 05-20-2019
I thought DNS was going to throw this out there (his points are good ones, my hearing loss is proof of his statements...97% left 93% right...high frequency lost!)...
Back to what I thought DNS was going to mention. I know he runs a piston system on his AR and from his videos, recoil is nearly zero! I have three, new to me, Osprey piston AR's but to be honest I have not shot them enough to know for sure. But they advertise recoil reduction.
I see a couple guys mentioning prices as high $200.00...for a few more bucks get a good piston system and leave the A2 on the barrel.
Does a muzzle brake really make a difference? - Double Naught Spy - 05-20-2019
CaptnC, I do run a piston system, but that doesn't affect the recoil. All the things that would cause recoil are still in operation. What is doing it for me is a heavy barrel and a suppressor (more added weight).
Does a muzzle brake really make a difference? - Michael-95037 - 05-21-2019
grayfox Wrote:CTR is Magpul's name for one of its adjustable carbine styles... triangular shape and a locking lever for the adjust mechanism - tightens up the stock on the buffer tube. I have a few and they are pretty usable.
Thanks. Looks like a nice stock. I just ordered one with the 0.7" pad for my build.
Does a muzzle brake really make a difference? - CaptnC - 05-21-2019
Double Naught Spy Wrote:CaptnC, I do run a piston system, but that doesn't affect the recoil. All the things that would cause recoil are still in operation. What is doing it for me is a heavy barrel and a suppressor (more added weight).
I know your rifle is still as a church mouse when your shooting. A buddy and I were talking a couple weeks ago about piston systems. I told him I had two piston rifles and two non....I told him I had not noticed a difference in recoil.
But I know it states that on Osprey's web site. So I though I just wasn't paying attention.
The 24" Grendel doesn't move much. I could spot my impacts at 600yds. No piston system on it...just real heavy..
Sweet rig, it's one of my favorite rifles.
Just finished a "short" barrel Grendel that might be my NV rig. It has the Osprey piston on it...reports are all over the map concerning my can being released...so for now it wont have the extra weight. In the process of loading 50 rounds for my next range day.
Anyway...sorry OP for the little detour...just trying to help
Does a muzzle brake really make a difference? - SightedIn - 05-21-2019
Ive got a bad shoulder and early on i built one of my rifles with a rifle length gas system, a JP brake, a CTR stock with the thicker pad, and shoot lighter bullets like 90tnts or 107smks. with all those things combined the recoil is ridiculously light, actually feels less than some of my .223s. Can easily watch rounds go out and see impacts. Tons of fun
Does a muzzle brake really make a difference? - LRRPF52 - 05-21-2019
Good muzzle brakes will help with maintaining a good sight picture if you really want to tame a rifle, but usually come with a side muzzle blast penalty.
The LaRue Tranquilo and Dead Air brakes don't seem to have this problem like most of the gilled or pepper pot brakes out there.
Does a muzzle brake really make a difference? - Kswhitetails - 05-21-2019
I bought the LaRue can when I bought my rifle. Now, all my long guns except the non-threads wear one of their brakes. I’ve run two Surefire brakes, and an Area 419 self-timing Hellfire. I won’t say that the LaRue is as good as the Hellfire, but it’s 95% of it as far as recoil mitigation. I don’t notice the blast as much. The fact that it’s $99 helps too. I shoot about 50/50 suppressed, and the Grendel’s don’t kick much at all.