stanc Wrote:Not necessarily. Guns are used because of their availability and ease of use. The same is not true of bombs.

stanc Wrote:I don't pretend to know what the problem is, but clearly the availability of guns like the AR-15 exacerbate the problem.

After all, if the only guns available were flintlock muzzleloaders, we would not have had any of these mass shootings...

Quote:Chinese authorities say two WOMEN were part of knife-wielding terror gang which left at least 33 dead and 143 wounded after attacking a train station in China

centerfire Wrote:It looks like Democrats are backing away from this ballot measure, at least publicly. The belief is the proposal is too polarising to conservatives and moderates and will cause a huge backlash. Not to mention the proposed measure on it face appears to be unconstitutional.

Quote:Osaka school massacre

The Osaka school massacre took place on June 8, 2001, at Ikeda Elementary School, an elite primary school affiliated with Osaka Kyoiku University in Osaka Prefecture, Japan.

The attack
At 10:15 that morning, 37-year-old former janitor Mamoru Takuma entered the school armed with a kitchen knife and began stabbing school children and teachers. He killed eight children, mostly aged seven and eight, and seriously wounded thirteen other children and two teachers.

Aftermath
Takuma was diagnosed with paranoid personality disorder. He was later convicted and sentenced to death by hanging. He was executed on September 14, 2004.

The attack was the fifth largest mass murder, along with the Matsumoto incident, in recent Japanese history, exceeded in fatalities only by the Tokyo subway sarin attack, the Osaka movie theater fire, the Sagamihara stabbings, and the Myojo 56 building fire. The incident set itself apart, however, by the age of the victims, its venue (a school), and the perpetrator's history of mental illness. Because of these factors, the attack raised questions about Japan's social policies for dealing with mental illness, the rights of victims and criminals, and the accessibility and security of Japanese schools.

After the attack, Yoshio Yamane, the principal administrator of the school, announced that it would bring in a security guard, an at-the-time unheard-of practice at Japanese schools. Additionally, J-pop artist Hikaru Utada rearranged her song "Distance" in honor of Rena Yamashita, one of the murdered schoolgirls (because of an essay contest the girl had won, talking about how she respected and wanted to be like Hikaru), renaming it "Final Distance".

BluntForceTrauma Wrote:Civil disobedience is an American tradition. Worked during the civil rights era when protesters insisted their 14th and 15th amendment rights be respected. Might be useful in the "gun rights era," as well, as protesters insist their 2nd amendment rights also be respected.

BjornF16 Wrote:Japan had problems with edged blades as well:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre

biodsl Wrote:

BjornF16 Wrote:Clearly, guns are not the problem:

Courtesy of Dr. John Lott at the Crime Prevention Research Center. A rather lengthy list of mass knife attacks from around the world.

https://crimeresearch.org/2014/04/a-note-on-mass-victim-knife-attacks/

LR1955 Wrote:Guys:

Not sure what you don't get about this. Do any of you think it matters that a Japanese guy killed fifteen people with a knife some 15 years ago? Or even if an American did the same today anywhere in the USA.

The left, by and large, absolutely hates conservatives, and they view firearms as a symbol of their opponents. To the leftists, taking away your firearms is seen as a huge victory for them. That's why they have been absolutely relentless in the quest to ban the private ownership of ALL firearms, except for themselves, for the last fifty years.

So today you guys will watch the major metropolitan areas of the East and West Coasts filled with Young Pioneers gleefully doing the bidding of their masters. And you will see leftist politicians out there with them, with their armed guards, ridiculing, damning, and condemning anyone who owns a semi automatic firearm.

Some of you will sit back and think it is just rhetoric.

You guys who do not live around these types have no clue. You think they will leave you alone. You are 100% wrong.

LR55

stanc Wrote:It isn't "anti-gun rhetoric" to recognize that the availability of self-loading firearms and high-capacity magazines is what enables mass shootings to be conducted.

Y'all can stick your heads in the sand and delude yourselves into believing the gun is not a factor, but that will neither solve the problem, nor stop anti-gun laws.

bj139 Wrote:LR,
I often wonder why these Young Pioneers do the bidding of their masters. It seems a sickness to me.
I guess they think their masters will give them everything they want without working.
I have heard that in many of the protests, the leaders are paid instigators, hired by a foundation funded by George Soros.

LR1955 Wrote:Guys:

Not sure what you don't get about this. Do any of you think it matters that a Japanese guy killed fifteen people with a knife some 15 years ago? Or even if an American did the same today anywhere in the USA.

The left, by and large, absolutely hates conservatives, and they view firearms as a symbol of their opponents. To the leftists, taking away your firearms is seen as a huge victory for them. That's why they have been absolutely relentless in the quest to ban the private ownership of ALL firearms, except for themselves, for the last fifty years.

So today you guys will watch the major metropolitan areas of the East and West Coasts filled with Young Pioneers gleefully doing the bidding of their masters. And you will see leftist politicians out there with them, with their armed guards, ridiculing, damning, and condemning anyone who owns a semi automatic firearm.

Some of you will sit back and think it is just rhetoric.

You guys who do not live around these types have no clue. You think they will leave you alone. You are 100% wrong.

LR55