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Why are suppressors $$$? - howl - 02-23-2017
So for various reasons, US made suppressors are a premium quality product with a limited market. That makes sense.
Why are suppressors $$$? - LRRPF52 - 02-23-2017
howl Wrote:So for various reasons, US made suppressors are a premium quality product with a limited market. That makes sense.
There are several price point markets for suppressors in the US.
A lot of the .22 cans even will be made to a pretty high standard though, since it is so hard to get paperwork through.
You have your $250-$300 rimfire cans.
You have your $600-$700 centerfire cans.
$700-$900 centerfire cans
$900-$1100 centerfire cans
$1100-$2200 centerfire cans
A lot of your larger bore, magnum-rated cans will cost a pretty penny, or something exotic like OSS, and the Surefire SOCOM cans.
Why are suppressors $$$? - wraith1516 - 02-23-2017
So if hpa passes will we be able to cans from other countrys and if so I would rather go that route than pay for a way overpriced american made one
Why are suppressors $$$? - Rickc - 02-23-2017
The guy that started it all
http://www.maximsilencers.com/about_us.html
Why are suppressors $$$? - SDet - 02-23-2017
I don't think so. It's as much our import and export laws as theirs. That said, there will be cheap disposable cans like in other countries. Most of the cans on the US market are high quality, and I don't see those companies changing.
Why are suppressors $$$? - Rickc - 02-23-2017
SDet Wrote:I don't think so. It's as much our import and export laws as theirs. That said, there will be cheap disposable cans like in other countries. Most of the cans on the US market are high quality, and I don't see those companies changing.
Presently it is a small nitch market. Probably the greatest reason for high prices.
Obviously if sales go up prices can go down. With todays CNC machines high quality components can be manufactured very quickly and production can be ramped up rapidly.
The suppressor market is being adversely impacted by this pending legislation. People are holding back on purchases waiting to see what happens. Some manufactures may be forced to close.
If the restrictions are lifted we will see a boom in sales like we saw with AR's after the ban expired.
Why are suppressors $$$? - Sticks - 02-23-2017
Well, I chose not to hold my breath for the Professional Politicians to pass this HPA. I've been putting off/saving for 4 years and finally submitted the paperwork at the end of January.
I got asked by 3-4 people while I was going through this "Why are you buying now? When they pass the HPA you can just come in and buy it then take it home same day"
My response - much like was mentioned above - "First, if it passes, you and every other vendor will be out of stock within in minutes - those that got here first. Second, because of the insane demand, the prices are going to probably double for the first 6 months if not longer. Third, if it passes, I have mine paid for and waiting on your back room shelf so I can just stroll in at my convenience and pick it up. As far as my $200 check to the ATF, well the wording right now is that I and everyone else since sometime in 2015 will get it back so it's a win win. If it does not pass, I am still in Que to get mine."
Why are suppressors $$$? - Red Dawn - 02-23-2017
^^^^ Sticks has it figured out. Don't wait to buy if you're wanting a can. Do it now if you're gonna wait you might as well be waiting on the stamp to be approved...winning !! If HPA passes you will be refunded the $200
Why are suppressors $$$? - Bigs28 - 02-23-2017
I spoke to two different manufacturers of suppressors at the Big 3 East media event in Daytona Beach Florida last call. Both companies stated if the HPA past their business costs would be cut by more than half. The cost of u.s. suppressors will go down and continue to go down as more companies come into the market plus you won't have to be paying the $200 tax stamp.
Why are suppressors $$$? - keystone183 - 02-23-2017
I really do hate to say it....but HPA = Pipe Dream. No shot in hell. And don't be holding your breath on stuff that got them elected either.....
Why are suppressors $$$? - Drift - 02-23-2017
183 is right. And even if he is wrong and the price of a suppressor came down by 1/2, the cost of the parts and machining to make one would still be under $100. The $200 tax you are saving while real is the smallest part of the of buying a suppresspr.
Why are suppressors $$$? - Sticks - 02-23-2017
Bigs28 Wrote:I spoke to two different manufacturers of suppressors at the Big 3 East media event in Daytona Beach Florida last call. Both companies stated if the HPA past their business costs would be cut by more than half. The cost of u.s. suppressors will go down and continue to go down as more companies come into the market plus you won't have to be paying the $200 tax stamp.
Eventually, yes the above statement is true (note the highlighted). How long that would take, I am guessing around 2 years for the market to settle, the wheat from the chaff as far as the quality manufacturers that surface.
No way in hell that all of them are going to be on par with Surefire/Silencerco/ThunderBeast/Dead Air...We are definitely going to be seeing a lot of junk hit the market.