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Military Pistol Standard (Not a Pistol Selection) - Sticks - 02-02-2017
One hurdle you are going to have to overcome is the "stigma" that the last 8 years has placed on returning vets is they all have PTSD.
Going to be hard to get civilian oversight on a project like this to readily accept a discharged soldier the option to buy out/retain their duty sidearm.
Military Pistol Standard (Not a Pistol Selection) - cory - 02-02-2017
Sticks Wrote:One hurdle you are going to have to overcome is the "stigma" that the last 8 years has placed on returning vets is they all have PTSD.
Going to be hard to get civilian oversight on a project like this to readily accept a discharged soldier the option to buy out/retain their duty sidearm.
I fully understand that argument is coming.
To those on that side of the argument, I'd first say check your emotions and feelings at the door as we are only dealing in facts and logic.
Secondly if the newly discharged Veteran can walk off base to the nearest Local Gun Shop and buy the same pistol legally, give me a good argument as to why they should not be able to retain their service pistol.
Military Pistol Standard (Not a Pistol Selection) - Sticks - 02-02-2017
cory Wrote:I fully understand that argument is coming.
To those on that side of the argument, I'd first say check your emotions and feelings at the door as we are only dealing in facts and logic.
Secondly if the newly discharged Veteran can walk off base to the nearest Local Gun Shop and buy the same pistol legally, give me a good argument as to why they should not be able to retain their service pistol.
Don't get me wrong, I am 100% in agreement with you. It's the administration for the last 8 years has convinced the gen. pop. that they are vets, therefore they have PTSD, and should not be allowed to own dangerous weapons.
Military Pistol Standard (Not a Pistol Selection) - LRRPF52 - 02-03-2017
Plenty of guys with PTSD that were flagged as non-deployable miraculously were cured when the units didn't have enough bodies for the next deployment.
The Army can cure anything.
Military Pistol Standard (Not a Pistol Selection) - n9nwo - 02-03-2017
This is something I have thought about. If we issued weapons, and field gear, in Basic and had each service member put down a deposit (full cost) of the weapon and equipment then we have cut the costs of equipping troops. The service member then is responsible for the weapon and equipment and it transfer with him/her from duty station to duty station (PCS). At the end of service the service member would have the option of turning the weapon and equipment in and having their deposit back or having the gear demilled and transferred to them.
Junior enlisted might have to have secure storage but NCOs and officers should be seen as responsible enough to be trusted with weapons and field gear.
Military Pistol Standard (Not a Pistol Selection) - n9nwo - 02-03-2017
cory Wrote:I fully understand that argument is coming.
To those on that side of the argument, I'd first say check your emotions and feelings at the door as we are only dealing in facts and logic.
Secondly if the newly discharged Veteran can walk off base to the nearest Local Gun Shop and buy the same pistol legally, give me a good argument as to why they should not be able to retain their service pistol.
If you cannot trust a soldier or Marine (there are questions about the Air Force and Navy, naturally) with their weapons then why are in the ranks?
And if a civilian could not be trusted with weapons then are they trustworthy to be allowed to vote? Would you want them being a doctor, a lawyer, or teaching children? Or being a government employee? Or even an university professor?
Military Pistol Standard (Not a Pistol Selection) - cory - 02-07-2017
I've updated the 2nd post with a pdf of the final baseline version. I'll update the first post once photobucket decides to work.
Military Pistol Standard (Not a Pistol Selection) - cory - 02-07-2017
Okay the correct pdf is attached now. I was having some serious technical difficulties last night.