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Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - karhu - 07-22-2016

Matt @ LSI Wrote:shipment should be here in the next few weeks, forum members have the first round of orders in so imagine you should start seeing some posts here shortly.

Has this shipment happened yet or are the first recipients being very quiet? I must request that delivery terms stipulate a mandatory review by the new owners here on 65grendel.com. Big Grin


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - Stevil - 07-27-2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZWFHl8Zf-A


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - usmcm16a2 - 07-29-2016

Folks,


Got mine today, HMA60603, 22" inch 1:8, #2 contour. Have to wait for another rifle is sold. But no rush, kick ass trigger. A2


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - Brakeman - 07-30-2016

Great to hear the 22" model is beginning to come through now.
Can I ask a favor; could you weigh the rifle with magazine but without the scope? Am really keen to learn what this one weighs in the real world.

Again, congrats on the new acquisition.


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - Singleshotsam - 08-03-2016

I got my howa 6.5 mini 22inch barrel on monday evening, been breaking it in slow, one shot and through cleaning for 10 shots. Then 3 shots and same, 21 rounds so I shot a 3 shot group at 190yrds [ all the distance I have] two holes 1 inch apart, I would send pic. but dont know to! LOVE the rifle, it is everything I hoped except the clip release, dont like it. The rounds were 100gr sierra hp on top of 32gr CFE223 hornady brass.


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - kmon - 08-04-2016

Sounds like you have a good one.

Sticky thread in the photos forum on posting pics:

http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?10354-How-to-post-pictures


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - adamjp - 08-04-2016

Just to confirm the good information already provided by Matt from LSI.

Is the magazine 5 or 10 rounds. Too many people keep telling me it is 10 rounds (because that is what the catalogue says and it must be right).


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - Singleshotsam - 08-04-2016

mine came with a 5 round clip. The clip is the only thing that seems like they cut a cost on. May be they went with the lightest to stay below 7lbs over all, I love the feel of the rifle, it carries light but it feels very solid.


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - usmcm16a2 - 08-04-2016

Singleshot,


Glad to here you are enjoying the rifle, my example also came with a 5 shot mag. I had ordered a bull barrel from Brownells, but a bit short on cash so had to cancel. Bull barrel 20 inch Grendel. Did order a spare 5 round mag. I will be putting a Leupold 3x9x40 CDS scope on it and cannot wait to shoot it. For those ordering the barreled actions, Legacy Sports has the stocks, $149 plus shipping. Made by HTI. A2


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - adamjp - 08-05-2016

Thankyou all.

FWIW a scope with a BDC setup to suit the typical 7.62 168gn round will work very accurately for a 6.5 Grendel with 107gn match bullets.

Nikon, Bushnell, etc. all do scopes with this BDC setup.


Oh and we want pictures!


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - Colorado - 08-08-2016

Does anyone know what the maximum COL allowable in the magazines is?


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - Singleshotsam - 08-09-2016

The mag. is not going to be the limiting factor, on my rifle the chamber will limit you before the clip. I had some rounds loaded before I got the rifle, 2.30 and could not close bolt, 2.260 may be where I have to stay. I was shorting and trying on my gun 2.265 or 2.270 I think may be it?


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - kmon - 08-10-2016

If Howa did as promised and chambered these to SAAMI Spec, I expect Singleshotsam's post is spot on for seating length. Some bullets with a VLD profile might can be seated longer but some will be limited more by the chamber. Not a bad thing at all. matter of fact it can be a good thing.


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - randomwally - 08-12-2016

Sigh. After a long weekend traipsing around the paddocks with my .223, once again I have to reiterate how much I detest the entire magazine system on these rifles. Not only is it hideous, twice I accidentally released the magazine into the mud. Many more times I released the magazine and caught it before it fell. In a single weekend! To put it in perspective, I've carried my Howa short action with metal floorplate for hundreds of hours in the field with zero accidental floorplate releases.

It's a genuine shame. The more I use it, the more I like everything else about this rifle. I want to drop a couple of them into walnut stocks and make lovely looking little hunting rifles. Except that magazine. It has to go. It's putting me off buying any more mini action rifles until there is a factory or third party solution to this problem. And yeah, I know I can grind down the mag release lever, it's just a less than optimal solution to a problem that never should have made it past alpha testing.


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - SDguy - 08-12-2016

randomwally Wrote:Sigh. After a long weekend traipsing around the paddocks with my .223, once again I have to reiterate how much I detest the entire magazine system on these rifles. Not only is it hideous, twice I accidentally released the magazine into the mud. Many more times I released the magazine and caught it before it fell. In a single weekend! To put it in perspective, I've carried my Howa short action with metal floorplate for hundreds of hours in the field with zero accidental floorplate releases.

It's a genuine shame. The more I use it, the more I like everything else about this rifle. I want to drop a couple of them into walnut stocks and make lovely looking little hunting rifles. Except that magazine. It has to go. It's putting me off buying any more mini action rifles until there is a factory or third party solution to this problem. And yeah, I know I can grind down the mag release lever, it's just a less than optimal solution to a problem that
never should have made it past alpha testing.


I truly appreciate your honest objective review based on experience. I am banking on more than a few will purchase this rifle in the 6.5 Grendel and decide to dump the rifle cheep do to the dissatisfaction with the poorly implimented mag and mag release. Priced right I will be more than happy to snap up one of these used and correct the mag release and not look back.

What are you hoping for with a aftermarket magazine / magazine release? Just a scaled down version of the metal bottom metal? Or did you have something more grand in mind?


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - randomwally - 08-13-2016

Was a little drunk and annoyed last night. I should also say the magazine does seem to feed well and being able to carry 10 rounds is handier than keeping loose rounds to top up a small mag all the time. It would be functionally tolerable except for the mag release location.

All I want is the same kind of metal trigger guard and hinged floor plate arrangement that's been standard on the short and long action Howas since forever. If they add too much to the cost of the standard rifle, at least offer them as a standard factory part.

Problem is it gets really expensive to get one or a small run of floorplates prototyped and made up. Realistically may end up costing more than the rifle itself to get a one-off made. And who knows how long until a third party manufacturer or Howa finally fix the problem, then add in the time it takes for products to reach Australia, maybe another 6 months to a year.


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - adamjp - 08-13-2016

Sadly, the fact that the Howa DBM is a crap design makes no difference to LSI and Howa rifles.

The only solution is more design and less marketing.


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - FW Conch - 08-13-2016

I greatly simplified My shooting life years ago when I went single shot on all my bolt rifles. If I wanted to be a lead slinger, My first choice would be an AK. I don't even see the justification for a 10 round mag, much less the abality to dump the mag in a instant. Does a guy who wants a micro action bolt rifle want to use it like a AR or an AK? I'm not going to be using the Grendel for dangerous game, and I don't expect to need 10 rounds to stop a charging white tail. The guys that insist on desert tan shooting clothes, $300 sun glasses, gloves?, the latest ball cap, will probably have a different opinion. I guess some people buy rifles because of this stuff?

A center stack option could lower cost, and allow guys like Me to simply insert a single shot follower.

JMHO...Jim :-)


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - Drift - 08-13-2016

I dono about a DBM being all bad. Maybe it's a little bad. The DBM on my CZ 527 is just fine. A long banana clip on an AR AK FN are no fun to hunt with. Are you guys who are bothered by a DBM that sticks down equally bothered by scope that sticks up?


Howa mini-action in grendel to be released in mid-2016 - xlcc - 08-14-2016

It would be my preference to have a floor plate rather than a detachable magazine for use as a hunting rifle