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  • montana
    Chieftain
    • Jun 2011
    • 3225

    Mass shooting in Australia

  • LR1955
    Super Moderator
    • Mar 2011
    • 3372

    #2
    Now they will simply ban all firearms. That was the intent from the beginning and this incident is nothing more than a reason.

    Here is what the leftists in Australia will say next. 'Obviously banning only semi automatic weapons wasn't enough to stop mass killings. Therefore it is time we ban all firearms.'

    I bet the law will be passed within six months and all you Aussies out there who registered your firearms will be told to turn them in or be arrested. Of course you will be given about one cent on the dollar in value -- maybe.

    LR55

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    • StoneHendge
      Chieftain
      • May 2016
      • 2053

      #3
      Adjusting for population, that's almost as bad as Las Vegas, Sutherland and Parkland combined
      Last edited by StoneHendge; 05-13-2018, 03:20 PM.
      Let's go Brandon!

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      • Double Naught Spy
        Chieftain
        • Sep 2013
        • 2623

        #4
        Unfortunately, that would not be the case. If we include all of the familial mass shootings such as was had in Australia (something pro gun groups never include in their data), drive-by mass shootings, etc., we have a lot more mass shootings than most folks realize. Nobody seems to like sources like this, but this one has links to news articles and such where each event can be verified. http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/mass-shooting

        Most of these we never hear about because they occur as local news only.
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        • grayfox
          Chieftain
          • Jan 2017
          • 4423

          #5
          Diane Feinstein needs to give up her handgun that she carries while in San Francisco (a "semiauto" in fact), it is only destined to be a family tragedy once her failed liberalism becomes evident... o wait! She is one of the Privileged Left b/c she is exempt from the laws...
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          • StoneHendge
            Chieftain
            • May 2016
            • 2053

            #6
            Originally posted by Double Naught Spy View Post
            Unfortunately, that would not be the case. If we include all of the familial mass shootings such as was had in Australia (something pro gun groups never include in their data), drive-by mass shootings, etc., we have a lot more mass shootings than most folks realize. Nobody seems to like sources like this, but this one has links to news articles and such where each event can be verified. http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/mass-shooting

            Most of these we never hear about because they occur as local news only.
            That's where I go my data from. Add up the "mass" shootings in the the US thus far in 2018, being sure to negate any of the 4 death shootings where the shooter killed itself (I'm being politically correct)
            Let's go Brandon!

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            • montana
              Chieftain
              • Jun 2011
              • 3225

              #7
              Originally posted by [url
              http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/mass-shooting[/url]

              Most of these we never hear about because they occur as local news only.
              We also never hear about these.https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...se-of-firearms



              A mother and daughter took matters into their own hands and shot a would-be robber at their liquor store in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
              Last edited by montana; 05-13-2018, 06:43 PM.

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              • stanc
                Banned
                • Apr 2011
                • 3430

                #8
                Originally posted by montana View Post
                We also never hear about these.
                The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention conducted three studies in the 1990s showing that about 2.5 million Americans use guns in self-defense every year. But the studies were never published. by Bob Adelmann




                http://abc13.com/mom-daughter-duo-sh...store/3135103/
                Not sure if serious. You linked to news reports that were published and/or televised.

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                • montana
                  Chieftain
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 3225

                  #9
                  Originally posted by stanc View Post
                  Not sure if serious. You linked to news reports that were published and/or televised.
                  As were these: http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/mass-shootingYour point would be??

                  Here are some more that were local news only.https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen/

                  Last edited by montana; 05-14-2018, 02:34 AM.

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                  • biodsl
                    Chieftain
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 1767

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Double Naught Spy View Post
                    Unfortunately, that would not be the case. If we include all of the familial mass shootings such as was had in Australia (something pro gun groups never include in their data), drive-by mass shootings, etc., we have a lot more mass shootings than most folks realize. Nobody seems to like sources like this, but this one has links to news articles and such where each event can be verified. http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/mass-shooting

                    Most of these we never hear about because they occur as local news only.
                    DNS is on to something here. I spend a fair amount of time over at Dr. John Lott's website for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Usually, Dr. Lott's focus is on mass public shootings. He defines this as mass shootings (4 victims or more) in a public place not related to any other crime. Gang, drug and family violence usually don't fit the definition.

                    Statistics are complicated and math is hard for me
                    Last edited by biodsl; 05-14-2018, 03:24 AM.
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                    • stanc
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 3430

                      #11
                      Originally posted by montana View Post
                      You wrote: "We also never hear about these." The point of my (somewhat smartass) post was that you obviously did hear about them.

                      But, to address the issue seriously, I think you know as well as I why such stories appear only on the local news: They simply do not merit coverage on network news.

                      Time constraints limit how many events can be covered on a news show, and those which are reported on are selected for nationwide interest and importance.

                      Interest. There's no logical reason for the NBC Nightly News to report on a robber shot in Tulsa, when it will likely be of zero interest to residents of other cities and states.

                      Importance. 50,000 people shot in 50,000 separate incidents is just business as usual, but a wacko shoots 500 innocent people from a hotel room and it's headline news.

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                      • StoneHendge
                        Chieftain
                        • May 2016
                        • 2053

                        #12
                        Originally posted by biodsl View Post

                        Statistics are complicated and math is hard for me
                        It's simple if your a liberal. For instance, you can take raw temperature data that shows that the earth has been cooling, "adjust" the data (because you say it needs adjusting) to show the opposite, and then brainwash everyone into thinking it's true. And if someone tries to call you out, just call them names. This can be applied to almost any agenda you might have!
                        Let's go Brandon!

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                        • LR1955
                          Super Moderator
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 3372

                          #13
                          Originally posted by StoneHendge View Post
                          Adjusting for population, that's almost as bad as Las Vegas, Sutherland and Parkland combined
                          SH:

                          Can you explain the numbers for everyone, please?

                          LR55

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                          • montana
                            Chieftain
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 3225

                            #14
                            Originally posted by stanc View Post
                            You wrote: "We also never hear about these." The point of my (somewhat smartass) post was that you obviously did hear about them.

                            But, to address the issue seriously, I think you know as well as I why such stories appear only on the local news: They simply do not merit coverage on network news.

                            Time constraints limit how many events can be covered on a news show, and those which are reported on are selected for nationwide interest and importance.

                            Interest. There's no logical reason for the NBC Nightly News to report on a robber shot in Tulsa, when it will likely be of zero interest to residents of other cities and states.

                            Importance. 50,000 people shot in 50,000 separate incidents is just business as usual, but a wacko shoots 500 innocent people from a hotel room and it's headline news.
                            Well stated Stan. The truth is we will always have deranged people who harm others,"including people in power". I should know, I grew up with the worst serial killer in Montana's history,who happened to be stopped by another person I know, who had a gun. When I was younger, I new people who lived under Stalin and Hitler's clutches and their stories had an effect on me to say the least LOL. The gun violence problem has been declining as has school shootings, but most will not realize this as the left is searching for another marching mantra of evil assault weapons. The carnage in Chicago is ignored since it is run by a leftist with strict gun control and doesn't fit the talking points. Violence is world wide as a muslin bombing in Indonesia, to the knifing in France which just occurred. We live in a dangerous world that has always been dangerous and probably always will be dangerous. Disarming decent people for the actions of a few is disgusting to me and counter productive in my opinion. Governments love disarmed populations as they are easier directed and controlled whether for the better or worst. The good sign of freedom is we can still discus these topics without fear of retribution as can happen, "in the so called free nations of Europe" for having the wrong opinion. Freedom is precious to me and I never take threats to them lightly. I have listened to victims who were under the control of dictators and criminals alike and I will never give up my fight for our right to defend our selves. When I hear phrases such as common sense, registration or no one needs a, my warning light and buzzer comes on. Propaganda is used by both sides and will always emphasis the good while repressing the bad, just like dating As the staying goes: all's fair in love and war!
                            Last edited by montana; 05-14-2018, 02:29 PM.

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                            • 41bear
                              Warrior
                              • Jan 2017
                              • 395

                              #15
                              Originally posted by montana View Post
                              Well stated Stan. The truth is we will always have deranged people who harm others,"including people in power". I should know, I grew up with the worst serial killer in Montana's history,who happened to be stopped by another person I know, who had a gun. When I was younger, I new people who lived under Stalin and Hitler's clutches and their stories had an effect on me to say the least LOL. The gun violence problem has been declining as has school shootings, but most will not realize this as the left is searching for another marching mantra of evil assault weapons. The carnage in Chicago is ignored since it is run by a leftist with strict gun control and doesn't fit the talking points. Violence is world wide as a muslin bombing in Indonesia, to the knifing in France which just occurred. We live in a dangerous world that has always been dangerous and probably always will be dangerous. Disarming decent people for the actions of a few is disgusting to me and counter productive in my opinion. Governments love disarmed populations as they are easier directed and controlled whether for the better or worst. The good sign of freedom is we can still discus these topics without fear of retribution as can happen, "in the so called free nations of Europe" for having the wrong opinion. Freedom is precious to me and I never take threats to them lightly. I have listened to victims who were under the control of dictators and criminals alike and I will never give up my fight for our right to defend our selves. When I hear phrases such as common sense, registration or no one needs a, my warning light and buzzer comes on. Propaganda is used by both sides and will always emphasis the good while repressing the bad, just like dating As the staying goes: all's fair in love and war!
                              Well said, bravo.
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