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  • LRRPF52
    Super Moderator
    • Sep 2014
    • 9005

    Safety heads-up (not Grendel)

    "I shot myself in the leg and now it’s gone."

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  • LRRPF52
    Super Moderator
    • Sep 2014
    • 9005

    #2
    The guy had a Glock with an after-market pocket clip and after-market trigger, removed the Glock from his pants, dropped it back into his pocket, when it fired and sent a .45 cal hollow point into his right medial calf. Doctors kept removing dead muscle tissue until nothing was left to save.

    It really sends home the rule that you need a good holster.
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    • Klem
      Chieftain
      • Aug 2013
      • 3611

      #3
      Sobering footage but as I don't know this person, no sympathy.

      A gun holstered in Action (round up the spout) but without the trigger covered, is an accident waiting to happen.

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      • LRRPF52
        Super Moderator
        • Sep 2014
        • 9005

        #4
        The main thing that sticks out to me is that after-market trigger. How light is it?

        Light enough that when it was dropped back into his pocket, it was easily-activated, regardless of what it hit.

        Better to learn from other people’s experiences than yourself.
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        • montana
          Chieftain
          • Jun 2011
          • 3242

          #5
          The Timney Glock trigger is one of the best triggers I have used for competition and I would never use it for any self defense use. The factory Glock trigger is what I use in all of my carry Glocks.
          The other moral of this story is the tendency of people getting too comfortable with firearms. I have seen this occur over and over with experienced shooters. I purposely focus on safety before picking up any firearm. Holstering can be one of the most dangerous steps when handling a firearm, especially with a Glock.

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          • LR1955
            Super Moderator
            • Mar 2011
            • 3382

            #6
            Carry a revolver. Factory loads, not hand loads. Carry the revolver as is, out of the box. No trigger jobs or after market sights.

            I have several 1911's and when carrying, Condition 1. Always made me nervous despite the two safeties so went back to a revolver.

            After market triggers and pistols are not a particularly good combination unless the trigger was installed by someone knowing their business.

            LR-55

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            • Old Bob
              Warrior
              • Oct 2019
              • 984

              #7
              Originally posted by LR1955 View Post
              Carry a revolver. Factory loads, not hand loads. Carry the revolver as is, out of the box. No trigger jobs or after market sights.

              I have several 1911's and when carrying, Condition 1. Always made me nervous despite the two safeties so went back to a revolver.

              After market triggers and pistols are not a particularly good combination unless the trigger was installed by someone knowing their business.

              LR-55
              Me Too! S&W Model 19 ...
              I refuse to be victimized by notions of virtuous behavior.

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              • Klem
                Chieftain
                • Aug 2013
                • 3611

                #8
                Originally posted by LRRPF52 View Post
                The main thing that sticks out to me is that after-market trigger. How light is it?

                .
                Hard to say but that blue safety might be a Wilson Combat 945 aluminum trigger for Gen 5 Glocks. If that's the case then it's the normal 6.5lb weight - so not reduced.

                Even if he had a lighter trigger like a Ghost or Zev they are still pretty heavy compared with other auto handguns. Trigger weight is not really the issue here. If he wants to carry the gun in a pocket or bag then either:
                1. Use a Kydex holster, to be pulled off when it comes out, or
                2. Don't have a round in the spout. Action the slide when it comes out.

                Covering the trigger adds no bulk to the gun
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                I'm with Montana on this. Many handgun accidents occur on holstering and drawing. I remember news of an IPSC guy shooting himself in the foot at a civilian range over here.

                On holstering we teach the guys to slow down and look down at the holster if they need to.

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                • LR1955
                  Super Moderator
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 3382

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Old Bob View Post

                  Me Too! S&W Model 19 ...
                  586 L Comp.

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                  • LR1955
                    Super Moderator
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 3382

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Klem View Post

                    Hard to say but that blue safety might be a Wilson Combat 945 aluminum trigger for Gen 5 Glocks. If that's the case then it's the normal 6.5lb weight - so not reduced.

                    Even if he had a lighter trigger like a Ghost or Zev they are still pretty heavy compared with other auto handguns. Trigger weight is not really the issue here. If he wants to carry the gun in a pocket or bag then either:
                    1. Use a Kydex holster, to be pulled off when it comes out, or
                    2. Don't have a round in the spout. Action the slide when it comes out.

                    Covering the trigger adds no bulk to the gun
                    jhikbljbhl - Copy.jpg


                    I'm with Montana on this. Many handgun accidents occur on holstering and drawing. I remember news of an IPSC guy shooting himself in the foot at a civilian range over here.

                    On holstering we teach the guys to slow down and look down at the holster if they need to.
                    Klem:

                    Pull the holster off the pistol (if carried in the pocket) and rack the slide before being able to shoot when in a life threatening situation?

                    LR55

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                    • biodsl
                      Chieftain
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 1802

                      #11
                      Kusiak makes light, svelte, leather clip holsters that are the antidote for those tempted to pocket carry. Two ounces. It's like the gun is wearing nothing at all.

                      Kusiak.jpg
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                      • Klem
                        Chieftain
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 3611

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LR1955 View Post

                        Klem:

                        Pull the holster off the pistol (if carried in the pocket) and rack the slide before being able to shoot when in a life threatening situation?

                        LR55
                        I hear you...Better off using a holster attached to the body, or have the trigger cover attached to the kit you're using to conceal. Plenty of carry-kit that covers the trigger.
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                        But carrying loose in a pocket with a round chambered in a life threatening situation, is life threatening..

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